Find a way to the underworld
The afterlife is multifaceted. There are areas in it where life is far from as pleasant and easy as it might appear in the light of various evidence. This is confirmed by our own observations, which were made during the conduct of spiritualistic seances. From 8 to 10 people took part in our seances; participants meet every 14 days (previously they met every 7 days); at these meetings there are always two people with the gift of a medium. At first there were three mediums. The gift of a medium is expressed in the fact that, being in a state of trance, a person is able to freely transmit messages from entities from the afterlife by voice.
Although the consciousness of the medium in this state is half turned off, they are still able to grasp the essence of the messages they themselves transmit. Being in a state of semi-trance, the medium loses the ability to control his speech. It happens that a medium, against his will, finds himself in the complete power of uninvited guests from the other world. In a semi-trance state, the specificity of the medium's speech changes, his manner of expressing himself is significantly different from that which is inherent in this person in a normal state.
We did not set ourselves the task of contacting specific deceased persons, including relatives. The purpose of practicing spiritualism was to obtain general information about the conditions of life in the afterlife, as well as to help the souls of the deceased, lost in the intermediate space, in realizing their condition and finding a personal path. Below are two conversations that took place during the seances.
• 1976, April 5 - first conversation. The session was attended by 10 people, including the medium Ms. A. (a teacher by profession) and Mr. B. (an engineer by profession). A certain spirit began to speak through the lips of Mrs. A., who said that he had come here to listen to music again. Last time he listened to the music of Mozart here and was very disappointed when he learned that today there is no turntable in this room. He wanted to immediately leave our society and made it clear that he did not want to have any business with any of us. We still managed to involve him in the conversation, and the spirit announced that he died in 1915 in the city of Magdeburg at the age of 15. He was very passionate about music, played the violin, piano and clarinet. The goal of his life was to go to study at the conservatory and become a musician. But the parents hid from their son that he had a serious illness - anemia. The boy was a parishioner of an evangelical church and was confirmed.
When he was dying, his parents and the attending physician were near his bed. Here is what the boy's spirit told about his last minutes of life on Earth: “There were other beings in the room, but I could not understand who they were. What is there - I could not understand anything at all. The room was jam-packed with certain entities, and the feeling of fear and melancholy did not leave me. I could not recognize anyone from those present, except my parents and the doctor. It was so weird. The spirits moved around the room, appeared next to me, then in the air from above. I could not find any explanation for this and concluded that my affairs were completely bad. I no longer understood what my parents were telling me, and I heard only the hum of voices.
At some point, I suddenly saw myself lying on the bed. Mom, sobbing, touched my shoulder, but the doctor just shook his head. I saw all this in reality. But what happened next, I never found out. I think about it all the time. I only remember how at the funeral I stood near my grave. My parents sobbed inconsolably, and my little sister could not understand what had happened. She wanted to pull me out of the coffin and put me on my feet. During the funeral, the musicians played mercilessly out of tune; what the priest was talking about, I absolutely did not like it. Being on the other side of life, I could not habitually perceive any of these people. The funeral is over, the cemetery is empty. They all left, and I was left standing alone. After that, I couldn't make acquaintances with anyone. I often meet creatures whose earthly life also ended,but we never speak to each other. I do not even dare to contact them, because they absolutely do not notice me."
Further, the spirit said that it always strives where there is an opportunity to listen to music (meaning places in the physical world, from the connection with which it was never able to free itself). But he is not very successful in this, because in our time it is rare where you can listen to really good music.
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Having heard this, we asked the spirit of the young man if he was trying to find salvation in prayer. He replied: “Ask? Pray? Do people continue to pray after death? I thought that you should pray only while you are alive. I have prayed many times, prayed that I could live and devote myself entirely to music. I know that people continue to pray to God today: Lord, grant us eternal peace!"
We asked the spirit whether it had found eternal rest and whether it was already in heaven. “No, of course not,” he replied. “Yes, I myself cannot understand where I am, because I am absolutely not guided here”. Then we asked the question if he would like to find a new home for himself, where he could listen to music again. The Spirit objected, “Will I ever be able to do this? I'm dead! I cannot touch any musical instrument. Understand, I have already wanted to do this many times (I mean musical instruments, which he had hoped to play in vain during his appearances on the earthly plane).
We explained to the spirit of the young man that he can get into another, more perfect world when he becomes ready to accept God internally and follow the indicated path. We advised him to ask God to send him a helper, an angel who can tell him about the new world and take him there. The Lord will not leave the soul of the deceased without help, provided that she will say prayers from a pure heart. Then the spirit of the young man prayed: “Lord, help me, please! Send me to help someone with whom I could go to where my real place is. I have already realized that I no longer belong to the world where I am, but I cannot find the road myself. Help me, Lord! Help me, make it so that I can see more!.
We explained that he is surrounded by other entities everywhere, he is not able to see them in the same way as we, earthly people, do not see him. Probably, it was at that moment that his eyes (in a figurative sense) saw the world around him. And then he turned to God in a prayer emanating from the very heart. When the spirit finished praying, with our help having read the Our Father, he said: “Now I can see that behind each of you there is a certain being. These figures are vague, standing in a circle close to each other. But I cannot see their faces."
Then he resumed his prayer and after a while again began to speak about what was revealed to his eyes: “Yes, now I can see the outlines of their heads. Should I see them clearer and clearer? Very strange, yes, now I see bright colored spots where the heads should be. The eyes are not visible. But this is the most basic thing. After all, only by the eyes I can understand whether they treat me well. " And he began to pray again: "Lord, our Father, hear my request, help me and open my eyes so that I can see their eyes and mouths, so that they can talk to me if I can hear them."
He managed to clearly see the still recently invisible spiritual entities and asked them if they could help him. They said that they could not help him, because they had to stay here, because they came here for us, that is, the people in this room. But another spirit rushes to his aid, the spirit of a certain woman. The boy's spirit prayed fervently: “Lord, please don't make me wait long! I so want to quickly follow the path indicated by you and do not want to stay here a minute. Throughout this time, I was so lonely. Perhaps things will be different now?"
After some time, in reality, a certain spirit appeared, but our interlocutor said excitedly that this was not the spirit of a woman and that he had an unkind look. We advised him to demand from the spirit that came to swear that he belongs to the world of the Lord's good spirits and that his Heavenly Father is Jesus Christ. He asked the spirit that had appeared: “In the name of our Lord, tell me whether you are here for me. Tell me, is your heavenly Father Jesus Christ?.. He answers no. But he can take me to a place where, in the end, I will have everything I want. There I will play musical instruments and have a lot of listeners."
We reminded the boy's spirit what he asked the Lord for, saying the prayer "Our Father": "And do not lead us into temptation." He should not listen to the tempting spirit, he should not go where this apostate called him. The deceased objected: “But he said that I would play there. Everything will work out for me. What am I to do now? " We gave him advice: “You must drive him out! Don't you understand that he is playing on your biggest weakness - your love of music? " Instead of answering, he prayed: “Lord, help me to be strong. And you go away, go away, away!"
The uninvited guest really disappeared. After the boy's spirit had spent some more time in prayer, another spirit came, this time the same promised woman's spirit. We advised asking the new spirit: “I was told, I must ask you, are you the spirit called to help me, did the Lord our God send you, and do you recognize Jesus Christ as your heavenly Father? Will you take me to a place where I can live a better life? " The Spirit gave him the required oath. The deceased told us: “She said that during all this time she was next to me, I just could not see her. She was there when I was dying, she called to me, but I did not hear. She is so beautiful. She says it's time for us to leave, we hit the road. Everything that had to be done has been done. Things are good. I just have to say the words of gratitude. Is that really true? Yes!She says I have to trust her. Lord, thank you! Now I have to go."
• 1976, September 10 - second conversation. The same people participated in the conversation. Together with me there were 10 people, including Mrs. A. and Mr. B. who have the gift of a medium, Mrs. A. and Mr. B. A certain spirit began to speak through Mrs A., who said that his name was Jurgen Rombart, in earthly life he was a stonecutter, was born in 1873, died in southern Germany in 1935. I asked him how exactly he died and if he felt anything when it happened.
He said: “I was sick for a long time: I had lung cancer. I spent a lot of time delirious, partially detached from the physical body and staying between the earthly and the afterlife. For me, it remains a mystery exactly when I died. I just suddenly realized that I no longer have my long-suffering body. I saw that my body was not on the bed; probably he was already buried. How and when the funeral took place, I still did not understand. I tried to talk to my children, in whose house I spent the last days, but nothing came of it. Then I realized that I was probably dead. My bed was empty, all my belongings were taken out. Moreover, I had a new body, and I felt incomparably healthier. I ran around my old room and was even able to walk through walls.
When I realized that I could no longer communicate with my relatives, I looked around, as if I had seen everything for the first time, and thought it would be nice to find other interlocutors. If I still continue to move and somehow remain “alive”, there cannot be others who are “alive” like me, I thought. It was them that I wanted to find. I left my home and started out, not knowing where I was going. Soon I found myself somewhere on the street, bewildered and helpless. I could not feel good anywhere, and I was left with a strange feeling that I was no longer connected with this world. In addition, the force of attraction that acts on all people has disappeared. A person can only walk on the ground, and the deceased can hover above it.
At some point, I saw a large number of people nearby, moving in the same way as me. I realized that they are in the same state. It was with them that I wanted to strike up a conversation. I went to them with greetings. When I asked if they were deceased, like me, they replied that I understood everything correctly and that they had come to pick me up. There were both men and women, but none of them was familiar to me. After the first words, my new acquaintances insistently began to demand that I go with them. However, I did not want to go somewhere like this, headlong, and began to demand in turn that they tell me for certain where they came from and what will happen to me next. To this they replied rather harshly that I did not need to be so curious.
In the distance I saw another group and told my first interlocutors that I wanted to talk to those other people, since they did not want to say where they were going to send me. At first they tried to hold me back, but because I always wanted to know everything for sure, I left them and went to another group. I asked where they would take me if I went with them. The first interlocutors did not tell me anything about this. “So we won't tell you anything right away either,” was the answer. They allegedly could not tell me anything for sure. But if I go with them, then my life will be in good hands.
But I also wanted to get rid of these “guides. I did not go with them or the first exhortations, as I was not sure that they would treat me well. I left, and since that time I have been looking for someone who will call me after him and tell me what awaits me. But - it's a pity, nobody does it. Everyone says: “First, let's go with us, then we'll show you everything! Where can we find a way out of this situation?"
So that this lost spirit could figure out where in the Afterlife he can find the right path, divine power led him to our meeting. Upon learning that he was in another world for 41 years after his death, the deceased Jurgen Rombart was struck to the core. In the course of further conversation, he told us that there was a baptized Christian in earthly life, but he never paid due attention to religion. Although he did not consider himself an atheist either, he had never read a prayer in his life, even in those terrible times for himself, when he was captured by the Russians during the First World War. He never believed in the power of prayer.
We drew his attention to the fact that each person has a mentor, a Guardian Angel. You can appeal to the Lord with a request that the spiritual protector appear to you. When he appears in visible incarnation, he will have to swear at your request that he serves the Lord, that his Father is Heavenly Jesus Christ. After that, he will lead the lost soul to other spheres of the Subtle World, in which it is possible to engage in affairs full of real meaning. After further conversation, Jurgen Rombart confessed that the image of Christ is close to him, and he prayed: “Christ, I ask you, send me down the one who is called the Guardian Angel, the one who will help me and show the true path. I ask You, let him appear, and I can finally understand myself, find my place in this world. I am begging you!.
After the conversion of the spirit of Rombart to God, a certain spirit appeared, which did not begin to swear an oath of fidelity to God and Christ. Finally, another spirit appeared, vowing to serve God and recognize Christ as Heavenly Father. The spirit said that he was the Guardian Angel of Jurgen Rombart and came for him to take him to a new place of life and tell him about the tasks that he had to perform. Rombart's grateful and reassured spirit hastened to set off with his Guardian Angel and left our society.
V. Schibeler
