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About The Ancient Ruins Of Siberia - Alternative View
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In the previous article, the rock paintings and ancient inscriptions found in Siberia, described in the article by G. I. Spassky "On the ancient ruins of Siberia" in the journal "Siberian Bulletin", 1818, No. 3. The appendix to the article contains drawings of these destroyed structures. True, they can be called ancient conditionally. Since the construction of these structures dates back to the 2nd half of the 18th century. And they are located in the area of the Siberian lines of border fortifications. For more information about the fortification lines, see the article “Who Built the Gog and Magog Dam? Part 2 "There are, however, a few oddities in these lines. The first is that together they form an almost continuous wave stretching from West to East across almost the entire continent - from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean, i.e. about 18,000 km. The second oddity isthat the beginning of this shaft (territory of Europe) dates back to the 2nd century AD. Its end (in China) is also attributed to ancient times. The youngest section of this line or wall, rampart, dam (in different parts it is called differently) runs through the territory of Russia and dates back to the 18-19th century. Although the construction techniques and appearance have something in common with the more ancient sites of this amazing structure.

Drawings from G. I. Spassky:

View of the Bukhtarma fortress in Siberia
View of the Bukhtarma fortress in Siberia

View of the Bukhtarma fortress in Siberia.

This fortress belongs to the Siberian line of fortifications, built according to the official version to protect against the invasion of the Xing (Chinese) troops:

China was not an independent state at the beginning of the 18th century. It was part of Tartary, like Siberia, and some other Asian territories. About this in the article "Tartar Emperors of China". And a series of articles "Unknown Tartary", which tells about the earlier period of Tartary.

Perhaps these fortifications were built precisely in the 18th century, but is it possible that ancient structures already located in this area were reconstructed and adapted for military purposes? Ablaykit monastery or fortress, located near the Bukhtarma fortress:

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View of the ruins of Ablaikid
View of the ruins of Ablaikid

View of the ruins of Ablaikid.

The Ablaykit fortress, founded according to the official version in 1654 by the Oirat leader Ablay, was located 85 kilometers from the Ust-Kamenogorsk fortress, but, nevertheless, was not part of the fortified line, as it belonged to the Dzungars. There was such a state in the 17th century - the Dzungar Khanate.

It existed, however, on the territory of Tartary. And in the sources of that time, in particular in the book of Nikolaas Witsen "Northern and Eastern Tartary" is not mentioned in any way. Here Kalmyks are called Oirats, or Kalmaks, as they were called in the 17th century. I have described them in detail in the article "Who are the Kalmaks?" Ablaykit has survived to this day in this form:

Ablaykit. State of the art
Ablaykit. State of the art

Ablaykit. State of the art.

Not far from this place downstream of the Irtysh were the ruins of the Seven Chambers:

View of the ruins of seven chambers on the banks of the Irtysh
View of the ruins of seven chambers on the banks of the Irtysh

View of the ruins of seven chambers on the banks of the Irtysh.

Another description of these buildings by the traveler, doctor Bardanes, who visited Semipalatinsk in 1771:

This description, indeed, fits more with the description of ordinary residential buildings, rather than mosques. If only earlier dwelling houses were not also called mosques, by analogy with temples - mansions? For some, it was once just a residential building, which later became a place of worship for someone. The thickness of the walls is impressive. But in those days it was customary to build thick walls. It strengthens both the strength of the building and the comfort of being inside it. And black flagstone - probably like this?

Slate - black slate, Kazakhstan
Slate - black slate, Kazakhstan

Slate - black slate, Kazakhstan.

The dimensions only amaze him: 3.2x1m. And how much did such tiles weigh? Tangut manuscripts were also found in Ablaykit. The Tangut kingdom is the Great State of the White and the High, according to the official version. Under white and tall, obviously, I mean Presbyter John or Priest Ivan, about whom I wrote in the article “Unknown Tartary. Part 2.

In the same area:

Ruins of Jalin-Obo
Ruins of Jalin-Obo

Ruins of Jalin-Obo.

In another way, this building was also called the Kalbasin tower:

Ruins of a temple in the city of Tatagan
Ruins of a temple in the city of Tatagan

Ruins of a temple in the city of Tatagan.

Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Nura River
Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Nura River

Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Nura River.

Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Yakshikun river
Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Yakshikun river

Ruins of two buildings on the right bank of the Yakshikun river.

Description of these and other ruins, taken from the "Description of the Kyrgyz-Cossack or Kyrgyz-Kaisak hordes and steppes" A. I. Levshin:

From this and other descriptions, we can conclude that a large area of the Urals, Siberia, Altai, Kazakhstan was once completely built up with cities, with all the accompanying infrastructure: roads, canals, arable lands, forges, brick factories. Then it all collapsed for some reason. What could be the reason? Walls, 1-1.5 meters thick, can safely withstand quite powerful earthquakes. Moreover, the earthquake occurs, as a rule, locally: the radius of the area covered by the destructive impact reaches 80-160 km, but not thousands of kilometers. And usually after earthquakes, people restore the destroyed and continue to live on this place, but do not become nomads. So, in this case, something more powerful than an earthquake happened.

Nikolaas Witsen on the destroyed Siberian cities

Nicholas Witsen (Northern and Eastern Tartary, 1705) describes a lot of descriptions of destroyed cities and structures. Here are some of them:

Peter Simon Pallas on ancient structures and mines

Witsen wrote this at the end of the 17th century. He himself was not in Siberia, so this information is excerpts from various reports sent to him from Russia. In the 18th century, the number of "travelers" personally exploring the regions of the Urals, Siberia, the Russian North and the Far East increased. They all wrote their own reports describing these places. And first of all, of course, minerals and what else can you profit from - riches, indeed, innumerable, in the minds of Europeans. Innumerable in the sense that no matter how much they tried to spot them, even more remained unnoticed. One of these travelers and explorers was Peter Simon Pallas (1741-1811), a German scientist and encyclopedist. For 6 years, from 1768 to 1774. he traveled to the central regions of Russia, the Crimea, the Caucasus, the Urals and Siberia. The result of this journey was the book "A Journey to Different Provinces of the Russian State", set out in 8 volumes, each of which contains about 400 pages. The third volume is almost entirely devoted to the description of the Ural and Siberian metallurgical plants and mines. In the remaining volumes, with a cursory glance, I found a description of the peoples inhabiting these places (mostly exotic, because it makes sense to describe those that everyone already knows?), Flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:set out in 8 volumes, each of which contains approximately 400 pages. The third volume is almost entirely devoted to the description of the Ural and Siberian metallurgical plants and mines. In the remaining volumes, with a cursory glance, I found a description of the peoples inhabiting these places (mostly exotic, because it makes sense to describe those that everyone already knows?), Flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:set out in 8 volumes, each of which contains approximately 400 pages. The third volume is almost entirely devoted to the description of the Ural and Siberian metallurgical plants and mines. In the remaining volumes, with a cursory glance, I found a description of the peoples inhabiting these places (mostly exotic, because it makes sense to describe those that everyone already knows?), Flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:The third volume is almost entirely devoted to the description of the Ural and Siberian metallurgical plants and mines. In the remaining volumes, with a cursory glance, I found a description of the peoples inhabiting these places (mostly exotic, because it makes sense to describe those that everyone already knows?), Flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:The third volume is almost entirely devoted to the description of the Ural and Siberian metallurgical plants and mines. In the remaining volumes, with a cursory glance, I found a description of the peoples inhabiting these places (mostly exotic, because it makes sense to describe those that everyone already knows?), Flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:flora and fauna, primarily from the standpoint of its benefits for production and profit, and also minerals, mines, mines and metallurgical plants, ancient destroyed, modern workers and planned to be built in the future. I will cite some excerpts from the 3rd volume of this book concerning the ancient structures and mines found in Siberia:

It is now clear how the minerals of Siberia were discovered so quickly and in such a vast territory: these places were known for a long time and were developed by local residents. This means that they were the most populated. And perhaps there were also those who could be asked about this. He calls the Chud an unknown people, apparently, does not identify them with the Scythians. And he really does not know whether these developments belonged to the Scythians or Chudi? At present, it is generally accepted that all the ancient mines found in Siberia belonged to the mysterious and famous people of Chudi, and the Scythians, wild nomads, ordered all their equipment and all their jewelry from the Greeks. While the Scythians, who have lived in these territories for thousands of years, left a large number of mounds and various objects, including metal, and including gold, made using high technologies,in numbers greater than all other European-Asian peoples combined. I consider it illogical to believe that they did not have their own mines and developed metallurgical industry. But we read further:

Pallas does not know whether the fortresses were built by Tartars or Chudyu. Perhaps in his time it was not known for certain what exactly was built by whom? Or he pretends that it was not known. Or the censorship didn’t miss more precise wording.

Earth coups

Pallas calls mammoths elephants:

The roofs of the houses were found along with the bones of mammoths. This suggests that they were filled up at the same time. But the roofs are unlikely to be able to survive for a long period of time. Therefore, we can conclude that the catastrophe occurred in the relatively recent past. Perhaps in the 17th century, considering that the finds were made in the 60s of the 18th century. Pallas himself, apparently, sees the cause of the disaster in the overturn of the Earth. Don't know if he means the pole shift? But he calls it a coup. Nikolaas Witsen also mentions the coup:

Here Witsen describes Holland, but recalls that the same is found in America. Those. it was a catastrophe on a planetary scale. That radically changed the climate. Because, elephants, like mammoths, are still herbivores. I have a bad association with snow.

V. Ivanov "Exodus of the Hyperboreans"
V. Ivanov "Exodus of the Hyperboreans"

V. Ivanov "Exodus of the Hyperboreans".

One adult elephant needs 250 kg of plant food per day. Moreover, all year round, not just in summer. And I think, not hard needles, but succulent grass and foliage. In addition, it is difficult to imagine an elephant wading through a windbreak, and even over a swampy area. Dimensions are not the same. This means that the vegetation of Siberia Before … was completely different. And not just vegetation. [An article on mammoths, and another one]

Here's another interesting description of Pallas:

We are talking about the Verkhoturye region. The Voguls are the Mansi, the closest relatives of the Khanty, now living in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug - Yugra. It is hard to imagine that you are walking through the forest like this, picking mushrooms, and suddenly you come across a copper statue standing near a tree…. And not even because you are wondering who brought it there and put it there, but because no one has taken it from there yet, and it still stands there … Yes, even such a stone sculpture in the taiga is now difficult to imagine, which, it turns out, there used to be a lot in the taiga:

Idol who changed his race
Idol who changed his race

Idol who changed his race.

Of course, no Mongols "squeezed" the Scythians from Siberia. And the idol was subjected to "plastic surgery" not at all during the Middle Ages, but around the 19th or even at the beginning of the 20th century. But most of the "idols" were not "remade", but simply destroyed. Precisely in order to adjust the facts to the invented version of the "Golden Horde" and the Tatar-Mongol yoke.

Author: i_mar_a