During the second expedition to the South Urals under the leadership of the famous traveler, Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor Ernst Muldashev, the researchers came to the sensational conclusion that there were stone people on earth, about whom ancient legends speak.
With three legs
Zilya Akhatova, AiF-Bashkortostan: Ernst Rifgatovich, why did you believe the Bashkir legends, but did not treat them as a fairy tale?
Ernst Muldashev: The Bashkirs were ruled by the sesens for a long time - enlightened sages who consider it their duty to carry the knowledge of antiquity. Therefore, their legends are very informative. By the way, the candidate of sciences Zilya Rakhmatullina, whom I consider to be the best connoisseur of the Bashkir epic, played an important role in the elaboration of this issue.
Ernst Muldashev.
From the legends it is clear that the stone has periods of growth, maturation and withering, like any living creature. Moreover, the cases of meetings with stone people are described. There are even special terms: tashbash (stone head), tashkeshe (stone man) and tashyan (stone soul). In addition, it seems that the stone people lived in a relatively recent historical time, since they remained in the memory of the indigenous population as living beings. So it made sense to start looking.
What do you mean by the expression "stone life"?
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- In scientific circles, there is an opinion that stone (or silicon) life once existed on Earth, which was replaced by hydrocarbon. But it seems to me that the stone still exists, although it is in a relatively passive state.
What do the "stone people" look like?
- They weigh many tons and outwardly do not look like a person. Several varieties can be distinguished. In the first, the upper side of the "body" is convex and semicircular, and the bottom has a semicircular concavity with three "legs". In front of the "beak". The general dimensions are 27 m. The second variety is hemispherical creatures with a convexity on one side and a concavity on the other, between which two "wide legs" or "legs" are generally connected in a circular bulge. As a rule, there is no beak. Their size reaches 10 m in diameter. The third - legless with a smooth surface, usually stand in the field in pairs or several, forming even slots between them. Sometimes one or two "legs" can also be seen on such stones.
Don't you think that all these are handicrafts of ancient people?
- So at first it seemed. But when we found whole mountains of "stone people", we began to think differently. It is more logical to think about stone life, and how to call these creatures - people or not - is the second question.
From your story, it can be understood that they could move. How?
- In my opinion, energies unknown to science were at work. One gets the impression that their bodies were once soft and could change shape, despite the fact that it is granite or limestone. Most likely, there was an anti-gravity effect, and the movement was carried out by levitation, and it is unlikely that the creatures walked on their feet. In addition, we found a lot of evidence that there was a war between them. Reasonable and very cruel.
Why did you make this conclusion?
- In many places, in the form of frozen scenes, one can see how one "person" climbs on the second or, perched, sticks his beak into it. There is a clear sense of aggression. Almost half of the "stone people" we saw were at war. The number of warlike scenes increases near the mountains, which the Bashkirs call Yamantau.
War and love
It is known that the highest peak of the Southern Urals is Mount Yamantau …
- It's another mountain. The expression "Yamantau" is translated from Bashkir as a huge or … ominous mountain. Four small slides in the zone of "stone people" 300-400 m high are called ominous, although trees grow there. It seems to me that the Bashkirs in ancient times witnessed the "stone war". In addition, on these creatures, you can often see fresh cutouts of the type of notches, as if marks for some purpose.
For what purpose?
- No matter how fantastic it sounds, the marked "stone people" should come to life in the near future. According to Nikolai Kozyrev (Soviet astrophysicist - ed.), Any concave surface concentrates the energy of Time, and a stone, according to Helena Blavatsky (religious philosopher - ed.), Is crystallized Time. Therefore, one can think that, having absorbed the energy of Time, creatures can gain mobility … like the seids of the Kola Peninsula or the wandering stones of California.
Do you mean to say that stone life is not completely extinguished?
- Yes. And this is evidenced by the analysis of the compressed "stone people" we found, in particular, on the Razbornaya mountain in the Chelyabinsk region. This is a whole ridge about 10 km long and about 500 m high, with 5 peaks. Each is composed of unusual layers of some kind of yellowish stone 2 to 40 cm thick, of which here and there … a leg or beak sticks out. One gets the impression that those who had a semicircular shape were brought here and flattened by some unimaginable force. One layer was superimposed on the second, third, and so on up to 100 or more.
Maybe these are layered rocks?
- According to geologists, there is something here that does not fit into the canons of geological science. We found several more such mountains, but smaller in size, in the Uchalinsky region.
Why is the mountain called Collapsible? Are people taking it apart for construction?
- Local residents said that the name comes from ancient times and means that the mountain could self-disassemble into separate stones and reassemble. People take their children here and tell them about this miracle. It can be hypothesized that the stone life still pulsates, periodically reviving and setting in motion the "stone people". Therefore, it is possible that someday a stone guest may come to us.
You are talking about some kind of force that rules over the stone life …
- Otherwise, many phenomena cannot be explained, at least the fact that the life of stone creatures was stopped by someone and they do not conflict with each other. In the East, this power is called Stone. In my opinion, it comes from the underworld and is associated with menhirs - stone pillars 30-40 cm wide sticking out of the ground by 1-2 m. Researchers tried to reach their bottom, but failed. The impression was that the menhirs "grow" from the underworld. We noticed that the fight scenes were localized where there were no menhirs, and where there were many of them, peaceful and even blissful feelings arose. War is in one place, love is in another.
Do menhirs really have such an impact?
- Quite possible. For example, there are many menhirs in the Verkhneuralsky district of the Chelyabinsk region. One of the places - "Golden Saddle" - was shown to us by a local resident Vasily Ashitov. There is a menhir as much as 3x3 m with a pyramidal top. People sit on it, sticking out of the ground by 20-30 cm, in order to absorb blissful energy. The compass needle is spinning here. Nearby is another such menhir on which the "stone man" lies. Other creatures lie on the field in piles, with equal intervals of 5-10 cm between them. The feeling that they love each other.
Don't you think that sensations are very subjective?
- It seems, of course … But there is one more place - “kissing stones”. Here, on flat terrain, there are hundreds of huge beautiful stones up to 10 m high, which seem to be kissing. Local resident Tatyana Gorbushina said that psychics here fall into the "space of Love" and feel very good. But the most curious are vertical stones of huge size and different shapes, also with even intervals between them. People say that they grew out of the ground, that is, they are menhirs. They seem to show an example of "stone love". It is not in vain that the creatures lying around follow this example.
Iron monsters
Mount Magnitnaya, which had the highest iron content in the ore in the world, is almost torn down, and a quarry at this place. What did you find there?
- The mountain complex consists of five peaks. Some of them have been completely destroyed, some have remained partially. The slopes of the main Atach mountain have been developed, but the summit remained.
The word "Atach" from the Bashkir language is translated as "rooster", but this word has another meaning - the bearer of Time. In addition, the Bashkirs called this mountain "Shaitantau" (devil's mountain) and were very afraid of it, because there it was possible to encounter "iron people". In 1930, the writer Arkady Gaidar climbed it, and his records seem to indicate that the mountain has a mystical character and, perhaps, there really were "iron people" here. Ore, "like petrified monsters", was on the surface. She was bulldozed. It was almost pure iron.
That is, in those days, Magnitogorsk metallurgists melted the "bodies of iron people"?
- Why not think so? Indeed, in these parts there are many congregations of "stone people"! And iron ore is a kind of stone. Moreover, there is an analogy with compressed creatures. This is confirmed by an old photograph of 1929, which shows that Atach had a layered character, like Mount Razbornaya, and that the pieces of ore, similar to monsters, are "iron people" who climbed onto their compressed brothers.