Most researchers, one way or another, are familiar with the Lysaya Gora on Vydubychi in Kiev. As of today, this is one of the most favored places in the city. Sorcerers of all traditions, ufologists and roleplayers will honor her with their attention in search of "places of power", underground passages, magical artifacts and so on.
It would be a mistake to point out the lack of interest in it on the part of scientists. Apparently, he also exists - latent, narrow-profile and "invisible". Ecologists and archaeologists, historians and geologists have been interested in the dense hill near the metro station for more than a year or two.
Bald Mountain is interesting to everyone, however, from different positions, systems of interests and even predictable (desirable results). The coefficient of variation here is more than wide, since it is obvious that, for example, the “urban shaman” with his eternal search for visions and “power” and, for example, a culturologist, have not so much in common.
In this case, we are not looking for truths and even answers to most questions. Our interlocutor today is the Kiev esotericist Evgeny Polyakov, who at one time fruitfully collaborated with us during the writing of the brochure "Sacred Mountains of the Dnieper". Obviously, his position is only part of the complex image of Bald Mountain. Nevertheless, there is nowhere without it - the Kiev tradition of deification of nature has not died.
Good day, Eugene. A few words about yourself and your interests in the field of mysticism and esotericism
- I am a mystic and esotericist from the standpoint of a person who studies various occult systems, systematizes them, and also searches for roots, foundations of shamanistic cultures - deeper, older, more complex and voluminous. From these positions, I can be called a modern magician. I am not under the pressure of strict grimmoir, book classics. I am interested in modern development, because magic and life are synonymous words: life develops, and magic is renewed. Therefore, I am today's generation of magicians.
Could you, please, tell us briefly the mystical part of the history of Bald Mountain?
- The history of Bald Mountain is common to all Bald Mountains, as such. The very concept of "bald mountain" implies a mountain with bald patches at the top, where followers of certain, mainly pagan cults gathered to spend their holidays, services, public affairs, in general.
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These meetings were often held by the highest priestly staff in sacred places. According to its energy structure, the mountain is lifted from the inside of the earth by a stream of energy that poured out. As in their time tectonic forces created the mountain, so their concentrations are located at the level of subtle energies on the top of the mountains. Therefore, people gathered on the tops of mountains and hills to join them. The history of Kiev's Lysaya Gora goes back to the famous Kiev witches. In Ukraine, there have always been and are many bald mountains, but it is the Kiev one that is most famous due to its capital status.
Historically, it was central and northern Ukraine that was most saturated with the so-called "places of power", therefore, the capital also marked the most significant of the bald mountains. Although, of course, it cannot be argued that it is she who is most energetically strong. It is possible that the sacred hills of Volyn, certain mountains of the Carpathian region, are of great power. But they are farther, less accessible, and therefore less known. Before the appearance of the Kiev witches, these were mainly pagan, patriarchal cults. At certain intervals, female cults took place, which were still run by men.
In any case, priests of local cults, including nomadic tribes, gathered on the bald mountains. Thus, the cult that we know as "Rodnoverie" was formed. It is also syncretic in nature, there are many deities in it that did not originally belong to the same pantheon. Later, it was they who were in charge of the bald mountains in this region. Initially, Lysaya Gora on Vydubychi was Devich Mountain, since the temples of Lada and Lelya were located on it. It was they who first settled on this mountain, later, after baptism, it was ousted by male cults, fugitives from Kiev. Here, as you know, the idol of Perun emerged, hence the name (Vydubychi, ed.) Of the area.
The female cult went towards Kitaevo, one cannot say exactly where. Magi, regardless of gender and knowledge, were exterminated. It was in the post-Vladimir period that the point from which Bald Mountain on Vydubychi became the central object of worship falls.
What is the Mountain for practitioners of certain teachings in Kiev (and beyond)? How high is her status?
- Today, her status is very high, she is known outside Ukraine and among all the bald mountains. Everyone stretches there. Not only esotericism. Also, the temple now attracts everyone, excursions are conducted there. Now it is, among other things, a tourist location. From a mystical point of view, its status is high, it is a key element through which those who know are connected to the whole complex: Lysaya Gora - Busova Gora - Goloseevsky complex. At the level of these locations, Lysaya Gora is the entry point to the complex, the gate to it. The mountain acquired its present status 50-100 years ago. This includes its popularity and everyday life, despite the fact that there are several bald mountains in Kiev, which are also used by mystics and just pagans.
Undoubtedly, this is the clearest confirmation of the emerging neocult. Vydubitskaya and Zamkovaya mountains are the clearest examples of this. As for the neocults themselves, of course, they have always been and will be eclectic, in all eras. A feature of the modern is a mixture of different traditions. If before that it was a mixture, for example, of the cult of Svarog and Svarozhich-junior, now it is a mixture of various paganisms, in general, in one pot. Much like beef, fish and roots in one bowl. It may turn out delicious, maybe not.
The younger generation does not abound in knowledge of Art, so this is a mixture. In most cases, people "play": the same Flying Macaroni God and so on. The main thing is where your faith directs you. Here, the geography of the deity you worship is irrelevant.
Are there any in the district that are similar to her in status or other characteristics?
- Within the limits of Kiev, the Menagerie (lower part) enters the zone indicated by me from one side of the mountain; on the other (western) it is the Kitaevskaya wasteland and the Goloseevsky forest, which do not have a pronounced relief. Yet even here, the uninitiated often encounter certain sensations and images; to the south, a ridge of weakly expressed hills stretches to the very Kamennaya grave (Melitopol, Zaporozhye region, ed.). It must be said here that for many peoples the earth was the "skeleton of a dragon", the highest archetype of the element. It was believed that it was in the region of Ukraine that the dragon makes another bend and its vertebrae seem to form these mountains.
Bald Mountain, like a point, according to some ideas, is the place where the dragon either flew out, or vice versa, returned to its lair. Here you can remember the myths about the river Currant and the Serpent who guarded it. We have Smorodinsky descent, near which, as they say, there was a river. There, in fact, there was a cascade of caves that led in an unknown direction. After a series of criminal episodes, they simply fell asleep. Within the limits of Kiev, one cannot ignore the Castle Hill, on which the pagans also erected the Alatyr stone; Tithe Mountain with the Museum of the History of Ukraine and the Temple of Perun.
Also significant in Kiev is the so-called Black Mountain, on the leveled site of which the Motherland and the BBB Museum are installed. This is the point where "dark energies" flocked, which were digested there and went to the Dnieper. After the mountain was leveled and a monument stretched upwards was erected, this energy began to splash out into the surrounding spaces. In the north, up to Chernigov itself, there is a ridge of little-known hills, which also performed certain sacred functions. Modern pagans still use them. Each mountain has some kind of energy, respectively, knowing the specifics of this place, you can solve certain problems.
What places can you single out as the most important ones, marked with the seal of the mysterious on the Mountain?
- The first, of course, is the temple. Despite its modernity and short history, a lot of effort has been invested in it. It is a key point of the mountain with a soft, positive potential. If they stay there for a long time, most will feel its beneficial effects on themselves. You can also highlight the Witch Yar related to the Dead Groves. The Witch Yar is the lowest point, the temple goes to one side, the Dead Groves to the other. Thus, they seem to annihilate each other and create a closed system.
Oddly enough, the radio station on Lysaya Gora performs a correlating function for the energies of this geolocation and has already become one of the key elements of its energy potential. On certain days, the radio tower records huge energy drops and current losses. Near the radio station itself, the effect of "chronal changes" is observed, when people simply fall out of time: its course, the actions of devices, and so on are disrupted. People just don't sense time.
Which of them, in your opinion, are of a long-standing nature, and which have appeared over the past 20-30 years?
- Least of all, probably since the formation of the mountain, Rusaliy Yar has changed on it. In former times, water flowed through it, there is still a lot of it. At one time, the waters of the Dnieper were brought there for military needs. Then the water was lowered, however, a couple of years ago it was possible to find a pier there. The zone, which is the Gora's fort, its central square with a stone (the so-called “grave of Bogrov,” Stolypin's killer, ed.) Also did not undergo practically any changes. Nevertheless, the ramparts around it are man-made.
The earliest sacred status takes place, there was a ritual site of Lada and Lelia, not far from it is one of the "frontal places" of the mountain. The same applies to the old temple, which, as it seems to me, was not far from the modern one, most likely at the "Glade of Desires". The difference between them is only 100-200 meters. "Polyana" itself is one of the brightest places where even a person without special knowledge can feel vivid emotions. Here, as you know, there are 4, 5 and even 6! -Leaf clovers.
Can we talk about the existence of a certain "neocult" - a system of urban legends that had no analogues in the past, but is successfully functioning now?
- Yes, you can, since each location of Bald Mountain is divided into zones that have their own legends. In any case, the entire Bald Mountain is some kind of blanket, consisting of patches, which in turn consist of different energies, manifestations, stories. This is a single complex, consisting of spots of different colors. In part, this zoning is due precisely to the neocult of certain places, “mountain patches”. As for the old cults, it is likely that the authenticity of the ancient legends has suffered greatly. Surely there is something that goes back to the historical roots of the place, but this is nothing more than a foundation. All modern legends are today (50-100 years old). One example is the cult of Vydubetskaya Lysaya Gora as the “navel of the earth”, the place where the energy meridians converge, is old, although it cannot be said so. However, it cannot be said that it was the mountain that was the Ouroboros - the serpent,who bites his tail. It is only known that it was somewhere in this region.
In the Soviet era, they say, geologists were looking for this "navel" using different methods, the same biolocation. If you look at the map of Kiev, it is dotted with energy nodes, both on the right and on the left bank. At the regional level, the cluster of nodes resonates in such a way that Lysaya Gora and Kitaevo are central points. In addition, ammeters and other techniques exhibit constant swings and no constant field.
How organically did the modern ideas about the Mountain absorb the images that existed before?
- There are no cults that have not taken root on the mountain due to the very diversity of energies. There are zones there that suit everyone from Buddhist monks to the most extreme Satanists. However, there are so-called "falling legends". One of them says that somewhere between Lysaya Gora and Goloseevo there is a pyramid-shaped city, a sacred prototype or the root cause of this place. Then he was specially filled up. This is a little-known legend, which either they do not want to talk about, or they say nonsense.
By the way, Bald Mountain is a "place of power" or their combination (explain, plz, what do you mean by them based on your ideas)?
- Vydubitskaya Lysaya Gora is a single place of power. Just because of its nodal structure, it collects different energies. But its strength lies in the fact that it is a single complex, like the human body. It is impossible to snatch some place out of it and oppose others. Every seeker comes to her as to a single organism - not to the place, but to the mountain itself. Another thing is that a specific location on the mountain is more suitable for a particular situation. But they come to the “soul of the place”, not to its parts. They come in order to feel themselves in the state of a temple through which a certain spirit passes.
What "energy features" from the point of view of esotericism does this Bald Mountain possess?
- This is a very powerful, smooth, viviparous energy. This is what comes from the grain when the sprout hatches. This image can be correlated with the entire mountain, it is not for nothing that initially there was a female cult. This is the place of mother, woman, darkness. This is a creative place. Unlike Black Mountain, this is the navel, cauldron, belly where energy is collected.
Are there similar analogues in Ukraine?
- In the Carpathians, but I think they are more narrow-profile - a particular mountain is responsible for one or two functions. There are many mountains, the potential is huge, but there is no collective energy there. They are scattered around the western regions, and the strongest places are in other countries, the same Transylvania. Of course, the height of a mountain is associated with its potential, but not its status. What you can get on Everest, you can get on Bald Mountain, the path will simply be different. On Bald Mountain, you will have to go the same 8 kilometers, but this time an internal road. In any case, where there are high mountains, there is often an additional cult of mountains, most often these are the most inaccessible places, which can only be reached with the help of some kind of mystery, akin to the more accessible mountains.
What, in your opinion, is its main, root secret - an underground city, book artifacts, a witch's coven? Maybe something else?
- The strength of the mountain is given precisely by its nodal structure, which encloses the energies of the region. If the legends of the underground city are true, of course, the primacy will belong to him. Perhaps it is he who collects them, in which case the mountain is just an entrance to him.
Are Sabbaths being held now and in general - who are these "Kiev witches" sung by Orest Somov?
- The Sabbath itself, as a concept, is a celebration of the end or beginning of a certain cycle. Solar, lunar and others. Many cultures, in relation to these points, celebrated and celebrate these sabbaths on Bald Mountain. However, pop culture has done its own thing: this is how tourism lives, carrying out some mass actions rooted in the past, the same Kupala, for example. These are not sabbaths, in the literal sense of the word, in this case, some parts are taken from the rituals, which are made out with a cultural program, so that people would be more fun and interesting. Thanks to Somov, now Vlada Luzina, such people have created a modern cult of the "Sabbath", where some things happen related to the cult of our ancestors. Therefore, even through such holidays, we join them. Quite often, witches gathering on Bald Mountain cannot celebrate their holiday. Within reason, I am forso that even in such a "pop" way such rituals should be popularized.
Do scientists show interest in it and, if so, how often and in what field?
“Several years ago I heard that scientific research efforts on the mountain were being thwarted. For some reason, our state is either not interested, or it has its own structure, which suppresses inclinations from the outside. This topic is closed for today in Ukraine. In Russia, everything is quite the opposite.
What do you think is the difference between scientific and, for example, your own interest in Bald Mountain?
- I believe that in fact the scientific and esoteric parts of research should be combined, since they complement each other. It is not enough to know the technical approach to get a complete picture. You should know and feel the cultural component of the place. What the shaman will feel is a sensory cut, the archaeologist will see some burials, settlements, for example, on this place. Combining the esoteric and the exoteric, we get the volumetric. The more multidisciplinary specialists can approach the problem, the more extensive knowledge they will receive. On the one hand, I am in favor of studying the Bald Mountain matrix in this way, on the other hand, it seems to me that the emasculation of knowledge about it from the point of view of a scientific approach is dangerous because we can forget about the spiritual component of the process. It may be easier to leave unfinished legends and untold myths. I am in favor of exploring the mountain, but also for keeping the secret secret.
In the early Soviet period, everything related to places of power was not only silent, but also eradicated. At the same time, their adherents were collected and examined. In the late Soviet period, a certain opposite effect arose, esotericism was no longer tracked. Then it became possible to speak and gather in old places.
We know a little about the past of the Mountain. Predict, as an esoteric, as a Kievite her future?
- Man and society are now developing very unpredictably, nevertheless, I am sure that Bald Mountain will remain in its sacred status. There is a popularization of esotericism, therefore, perhaps the sacredness of some places will become not just a status, more - a sacred place at the state level, where you can come not only to fry sausages, but also to commune with the place. I want this Bald Mountain and others to acquire the status of sacred places in the consciousness of society.