Exactly a year ago, on September 15, 2016, a man passed away who revealed to the world the real history of civilization
The scientist-traveler shared with MK his reflections on the fate of modern scientists and a real historical discovery.
The era of great geographical discoveries on Earth was considered completed back in the 15th century with the discovery of the American continents. However, after 700 years, having explored almost all the most remote parts of the planet, modern civilization never found out who owned the ancient ruins of the majestic pyramids and palaces scattered all over the world, striking the imagination of mankind with their scale and the highest construction technology.
Having lived up to the XXI century, classical science was not ready to give exhaustive answers about the civilizations that created these wonderful buildings in Peru, Egypt, Mexico, Lebanon, Israel …
Who would have thought that the loudest historical discoveries are still ahead, and the era of discoverers is just beginning!
One of the modern pioneer researchers, without a doubt, was the Russian scientist and traveler Andrei Yuryevich Sklyarov, a graduate of the legendary Phystech - the Faculty of Aerophysics and Space Research, MIPT, and in the last years of his life - the head of the III Millennium Science Development Fund.
In an exclusive interview with MK, the famous pioneer spoke about scientific expeditions to Turkey and South America and ancient artifacts found there that actually rewrite the generally accepted history of the last millennia.
The Fund for the Development of Science "III Millennium" has more than two dozen historical expeditions (this year marks exactly ten years of the first of them, on the basis of which a popular science film was shot). All these years, thousands of followers have been following in the footsteps of Sklyarov's team, regularly posting their own research on the worldwide information network with confirmation of Andrey Yuryevich's research. However, the official science is still silent and is in no hurry to recognize the newly discovered facts.
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Our interview began with the question of the fairness of such an attitude towards "alternative" research. The last in the life of the great researcher of the civilization of ancestors….
Rejecting numerous facts of the presence on Earth of a "pre-biblical" high-tech civilization, isn't academic science itself turning into an "alternative" one?
- In my opinion, in order to objectively answer this question, it is necessary to take into account the real state of what we now call academic science and history. Previously, it was enough to write some work, cite facts substantiating the theory, and it does not matter in what form you described everything, what institutions you went through, the study became the property of a wide range and was considered a scientific work.
And in the XXI century, isn't it?
- Figuratively speaking, if in the past centuries science was equated with art, now it has become a standard craft. Thousands of “artisan” scientists work all over the world in an outdated pattern. However, they terribly dislike "artists". For “artisans”, who make up 90% –95% of the modern scientific community, barricades have been built in the form of a variety of recommendations, multi-stage procedures for passing protection, and, in fact, administrative barriers in research. The system has been working for itself for a long time.
What we continue to call academic science is fundamentally different from our idealistic ideas about science at the stage of its formation. The personal interests of people from the hierarchical system, the so-called "mainstream" - "mainstream" are already playing an important role in it. And as a result, in the scientific community in recent years, more and more often one has to face numerous protests that take the form of alternative directions in physics, geology and even mathematics.
I will assume: the attitude towards alternative research in the exact sciences does not differ much from the attitude towards alternative research and researchers in the humanities?
- It doesn't matter what area you are researching. People who do not work in areas that are considered generally recognized, do not fall into the "mainstream", immediately find themselves in completely unfavorable conditions. They risk their scientific careers.
Roughly speaking, if you go to engage in individual production and independently produce a much better product than the entire scientific "colossus" taken together, no one will look at it anyway! The situation is one to one, like with chain supermarkets. There is no entrance for private farmers and that's it! Nobody will let you in with new goods. The system is exactly the same here. If you stand outside the "colossus" - a dead end! You simply lose access to the main streams - information, material, whatever. These channels, for you, are no longer available. Because the system itself begins to reject.
And yet, despite the difficult relationship between academic and "alternative" science, your "product" - research devoted to an ancient highly developed civilization, has been in unprecedented demand for many years. There are millions of people around the world among the readers of your books and film viewers. And above all, it is for this large audience that you promised to tell about the expedition to Turkey and the discovery made there …
- As the research we were doing in different countries, a certain method of searching for places where it is possible to find technologies inherent in a previously unknown ancient highly developed civilization began to take shape. For a number of indirect signs (in ancient metallurgy, agriculture, and other factors) it seemed to me that in Turkey there should be traces of the civilization of "gods", including in stone. However, neither in the literature, nor in historical studies, there was no mention of something similar.
And millions of tourists coming to Turkey are introduced exclusively to the ancient artifacts located on the coast. And so everyone who had been there on the eve of the expedition asked me a perplexed question: - Why are you going there? There, except antiquity, there is nothing!
Did you come and on the very first day unearthed something unusual ?
- This is approximately what happened. There were two expeditions to Turkey. Both on the first and on the second trip, we did not travel light, but with a colossal baggage of previous studies in the Middle East and America.
And literally on the very first day of the first trip, in Hattusa, the ancient capital of the Hittite empire, they came across traces of high technologies left on the stones of ancient structures: traces of tools, etc. And in Aladzha-khuyuk they found a wall, or rather two parts of one wall, testifying that historians are not just mistaken in their research, they are initially wrong in chronology!
When we compared the polygonal-megalithic * masonry discovered there with the masonry previously investigated by us in Cuzco, on the territory of Peru, we received a completely identical copy in terms of technology and … a complete discrepancy between classical history and real facts!
And how is the discrepancy expressed?
- One object in Turkey, historians ascribe to the Hittites, who lived there 1500 years before our era. And the other (its twin in Peru) is the Inca civilization that existed only 500 years ago.
Not only is there a difference of three thousand years between these objects, but also tens of thousands of kilometers of distances, because they are built on different continents! And any techie, looking at the ancient walls, understands that they were built by one civilization, if, in general, not the same master!
An example is really striking, but why, having excluded the unlikely expeditions of the Hittites to pre-Columbian America, do you not admit the possibility of the participation of the Incas in the construction of a similar wall on the territory of modern Turkey?
- Indeed, according to the ancient texts describing the Hittite civilization, documentary descriptions of their life (and there are a lot of them) and according to archaeological evidence, this people was a land nation. The Hittites did not sail the seas and oceans.
The Incas, all the more, on their fragile pies, could not, during the Ottoman Empire, quietly sail to Europe, penetrate deep into the continent and begin construction!
Who, then, was the builder of these megalithic walls?
- In my opinion, there is only one option. The builder of such a structure could have been another civilization that lived in the same places even before the Incas and before the Hittites. And the peoples to whom modern historians attribute the discovered ancient structures simply lived near these buildings and used them for their own needs.
And how legitimate is one find, even a mysterious one, to assert with absolute certainty that it belongs to a previously unknown ancient civilization?
- I have already said that in the very first days, both on the first and on the second trip to Turkey, we collected material that unequivocally testifies to the activities of an ancient highly developed civilization. Many stone samples found and examined in these places not only demonstrate the use of high technologies in their processing and construction. They just scream how pretentiously good these technologies are, even when compared to today's architectural and building standards. Sometimes, at first glance, it is enough to understand that it is clearly not the Hittites and not the Incas who created them with their primitive construction technologies. And most importantly, the presence of high technologies in stone processing is supported by our laboratory analyzes of microparticles in the objects under study.
Hasn't anyone paid attention to the kinship of ancient walls in Turkey and Peru before you and described their striking similarity?
- All descriptions that exist in academic and historical literature, popular literature, focus maximum attention on the megaliths we investigated, as on "large, hewn stones." And that's it! And the fact that this wall has unique technical parameters that simply overturn the traditional ideas about the technologies of the peoples who inhabited these territories in ancient times - there is no mention. Paradoxically, there are no sketches either, although archaeological reports are supposed to thoroughly sketch the found objects. Now, they are generally necessarily photographed. So, in books on this topic, I did not find any sketches or photos!
Aladzha-khuyuk, Turkey
Cuzco, Peru
Cuzco, Peru
Suppose historians, under the pressure of irrefutable evidence, will accept your version of the existence of an unknown highly developed civilization. What about politicians? After all, a lot of disputes will immediately arise and the question will arise, who today is considered the direct descendants of an unknown ancient civilization and who should own its cultural and scientific heritage, Europeans, Asians, inhabitants of Central or South America?
- Talking about descendants implies that it was a kind of earthly civilization, a kind of people. And I fundamentally disagree with this definition. We have megalithic structures on various continents. And this means that the thousand-kilometer distance between the continents for the ancient builders was not an obstacle.
In any case, already at that time there was a civilization on a planetary scale.
Therefore, to assume today that one people originated from it, and another did not, generally loses all meaning.
For me personally, based on the available facts and the research conducted, the version of the paleocontact looks like the best explanation. In other words, humanity is dealing with representatives of an alien civilization, who, as they were aliens for us, are still aliens!
If we rely on mythology and modern genetic research, people are the product of their creation. I think that such an obviously not “divine” situation with the heritage of the ancient highly developed “ancestors” will not please any of the peoples, and they are unlikely to start pulling a new blanket of history over themselves.
Where did our creators disappear to? Why did you cut off contact with people? Why, having such high technologies, were not able to preserve their presence on Earth, leaving only fragments of majestic structures as a legacy?
- On this occasion, I suggest that earthlings look at themselves! Do modern people have the same aspirations, goals, objectives, tactics and strategy as in the ancient world? Not! Everything changes over time. Why do we expect from another civilization that everything is frozen? It changes its priorities, interests, goals, tasks in the same way, including in relation to humanity. At some stage, she played the role of, roughly speaking, “benefactors”. After some time, she acted simply as an observer, a researcher … Our civilization is only a few thousand years old. By cosmic standards, she is an embryo! But even in such a short time period, we have a lot of waves of migrations, seizures, segregations, completely confusing real history, mixing languages, cultures, places of residence of peoples …
Today it is already clear that modern Arabs, who make up the overwhelming majority of the population of Egypt, or Turks, who make up the majority of the population of Anatolia, or the inhabitants of South America, have nothing to do with the most ancient structures located in their regions. However, the mixing of peoples, their occupation of new territories does not entail the perception of some more highly developed historical technologies.
I do not exclude that today regulation is being carried out over us, humanity is subject to, let's say, one-time actions from the outside.
- It is very difficult for people brought up on classical history, and even more so, who consider themselves religious, brought up on the Bible, to accept such an evolution of humanity. It is completely inconsistent with their logic, life experience, knowledge that they propagandize and pass on to their descendants …
If someone's internal attitudes and worldview interfere with accepting or at least understanding the possibility of such conclusions, these are their personal problems. I do not intend to break anyone's worldview. Let the person choose his knowledge himself
If we begin to give examples that may be specific manifestations of external influence, then this will cause a sharply negative reaction in very many. Therefore, I categorically move away from discussing contemporary events. Most importantly, the activities of the III Millennium Science Foundation remain outside politics, outside of religion and outside of ideology. We deal exclusively with ancient history. Although for myself personally, I can allow certain assumptions regarding modern and slightly earlier events, but no more.
And if we talk about the factual basis of the "alternative" history of mankind, first of all, the images of the so-called UFOs, our "creators" have not disappeared anywhere. Alien ships are also present in ancient Egyptian inscriptions among the hieroglyphs. They are found in ancient manuscripts and are fixed on coins. They are also present in the Middle Ages. They are being recorded now. You can write off unexplained phenomena as much as you like by chance coincidences, hallucinations, disturbance of the atmosphere, but all studies of so-called unidentified flying objects agree that 5-15% of these phenomena cannot be attributed to anything other than alien flying vehicles! A situation when statistics and modern academic science no longer work, while the facts remain and there is an alternative history.
* (Polygonal masonry - having many corners, i.e. not even, rectangular bricks, but blocks of the most arbitrary shape; megalithic masonry - large blocks of several tens of tons, laid without any mortar).