In December 1989, a secret unit appeared in the General Staff - military unit 10003. Even then Defense Minister Dmitry Yazov did not know exactly what the employees of the new department were doing. The darkest rumors were circulating: supposedly military unit 10003 specializes in the creation of combat zombies, communicates with aliens, magicians and psychics.
Is it so? Its former leader, Lieutenant General of the Reserve of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Aleksey Yuryevich SAVIN, agreed to talk about the everyday life of military unit 10003.
Alexey Yuryevich, there are a lot of tales and fables floating around the unit you commanded. What was this military unit actually doing?
- Of course, most of what is said about military unit 10003 has nothing to do with reality. In fact, this part was mainly engaged in the study of human superpowers. And one of the main tasks was to create techniques with the help of which an ordinary person can be endowed with unusual capabilities. So that he can memorize a large amount of information, operate in his mind with large numbers and information flows. In a word, to reveal in him an extraordinary creative potential and psychic abilities. And since the unit was still military, we hoped to find ways to endow a person with high performance and unique body capabilities, allowing them to withstand extreme conditions and mechanical stress without harming their health. Moreover, it was important for us to develop the phenomenal capabilities of a person,inherent in it by nature, and not trivial to collect people with extrasensory abilities from all over the country.
How did the idea of creating such a military unit come about?
- In 1986 I was offered the position of a senior officer in the Armaments Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Defense, of course, I agreed. When I worked in this department, I happened to get acquainted with a large number of very unusual developments, many of which are still considered secret. So, in the last years of perestroika, a civilian group of psychics approached the Minister of Defense of the USSR with a proposal to use their abilities to search for missing ships, locate and treat people. I was instructed to understand the effectiveness of the psychics' proposal. After doing research, I found that in 20% of cases, psychics showed a very good result. As a result, after my report to the Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Mikhail Moiseev, the idea occurred to create a direction for the development of extraordinary and extrasensory abilities of a person. I was offered to head this department, which then grew into management.
How did the top leaders of the Ministry of Defense react to the creation of such a unit?
- Yazov, when he was told about our work, said in his hearts: "With you and believe in the devil, disappear from my eyes." Since then, in order not to arouse the anger of the materialist-minded leadership, we began to obey the Chief of the General Staff. And no one even knew about our top-secret works for the first 10 years of the unit's existence.
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Did any of the Soviet leaders seriously support your research?
- Our most active patron was Finance Minister Valentin Pavlov. He provided funding for our work. At his suggestion, we organized an exhibition that told about possible methods of working with people to reveal their superpowers. Some time after the exhibition, Pavlov suggested that we create a super-elite that could pull the country out of the abyss into which it persistently fell. It was supposed to create super advisors for the government and the Ministry of Defense. We were looking for talented youth all over the country. But, unfortunately, after the Emergency Committee, these works had to be curtailed.
How did other military units relate to your activities?
- Differently. In March 1990, our group and I arrived at Star City. Then the cosmonaut detachment was led by pilot-cosmonaut Vladimir Shatalov. They talked about the possibilities of using extrasensory perception in the training of cosmonauts, but Shatalov said that he did not believe in mysticism. One of my assistants says, "Take a pencil and place it in your bent arm and then release it." Shatalov did just that. The pencil rolled down. Then my assistant asked him to do the same, but this time the pencil literally stuck to the astronaut's hand. And no matter how he shook his hand, the pencil did not come off without a command. So we convinced Shatalov that paranormal things do exist.
Have you had any other successes? For example, did your predictions and predictions come true?
- Yes. In 1991, I was asked to calculate the seismic situation in Kamchatka, where serious military exercises were planned. Soon I brought the Chief of the General Staff a map with the marked places of the alleged earthquakes, and he handed it over to the responsible general. But the general, apparently not taking into account the source of information, sent an encrypted message to the troops with instructions to prepare for an earthquake. As a result, the families of the military began to leave the place, a banal panic began. At the same time, seismologists did not predict anything extraordinary. They called me from the office of the Minister of Defense and said that if there was no earthquake, then I would be in serious trouble. But exactly at the appointed hour the earthquake struck.
Tell me, is it true that your unit was looking for contacts with extraterrestrial civilizations?
- We did not deal with this topic directly, but sometimes we were attracted as experts. Once in the summer of 1991, one of the psychics Mark Melkhiker and a group of his associates in different cities of the USSR came to the conclusion that aliens, seeking contact with our civilization, should land in the town of Zaravshan near Tashkent at a certain time. Somehow Gorbachev found out about this and gave the command to Yazov to figure it out.
It is noteworthy that the aliens demanded, through psychics, to turn off the air defense systems in the landing area, and this could only be done with the approval of Gorbachev. I don't know if the air defense was actually turned off, most likely not, but we flew by helicopter to the area of the alleged landing of the alien ship. We sat down in the desert, we are waiting … But nobody arrived.
One of the pilots began to sneer at Melkhiker. To which the psychic suggested putting him into a state of hypnosis and giving him the opportunity to communicate with aliens. The pilot agreed, laughing. After being immersed in hypnosis, the pilot began to talk to someone, to state complex scientific theories. Coming out of hypnosis, he could not repeat them. After this incident, if we tried to come into contact with alien civilizations, it was only through extrasensory perception.
Finance Minister Valentin Pavlov proposed creating a super elite that could pull the country out of the abyss into which it fell. They were looking for talented youth all over the country.
Today they talk a lot about psychotronic weapons, with which any person can be programmed. How substantiated are these rumors?
- We have worked out the issues of psychic intelligence and ways to protect against it. However, after conducting a number of studies, we came to the conclusion that it is practically impossible to "hammer" into the head of the president of a particular country a program that he would unquestioningly carry out. Even for such a theoretical impact, special conditions are needed: time, a relaxed psychological attitude, a special environment. Moreover, the president is most often a strong-willed person who zombies whoever you want.
And what is the military unit 10003 doing today?
- In 2004 I resigned. So, unfortunately, I do not know anything about the further fate of the unit, as well as about its research.
Interviewed by Dmitry SOKOLOV
“Riddles and Secrets. Steps »December 2012