Interview With Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal - Alternative View

Interview With Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal - Alternative View
Interview With Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal - Alternative View

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Conducted in 1976 by Walter White, Jr., who for 17 years was director and publisher of the conservative monthly Western Front in the United States.

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I (Walter White) became aware that Mr. Rosenthal is widely praised throughout Washington, and I was advised to interview him, which he gave me, but of course not for free.

In the end, we were brought together, and I interviewed him privately and taped him, with the full consent of Mr. Rosenthal, for which, in fact, I paid the money. During this interview, Mr. Rosenthal became unrestrained, rude and rude, and it was all recorded on tape. In the end, he tried to increase the interview fee.

Since the entire interview was long, only the first part was published in 1977, under the same title as the second part - "The Hidden Tyranny" (under which it can be found on the Internet). Copies of the first part were quickly snapped up around the globe. We are now releasing the balance of all three tapes as part of the second.

Only part one was read by at least 7 million people.

Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal is a high-ranking official who has worked in Washington DC as an assistant to the almighty New York State Senator Jacob K. Javits, a billionaire and Jewish. Mr. Rosenthal was 29 years old at the time of the interview.

Shortly after this interview, on August 12, 1976, Mr. Rosenthal was gunned down at the airport in Istanbul, Turkey, under very strange circumstances. The plane that Mr. Rosenthal was on was attacked. Four people were killed, about 30 people were wounded by accidental bullets. However, numerous witnesses have shown that while other people were accidentally injured, Mr Rosenthal was shot, apparently and on purpose.

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I, Walter White, Jr., conducting the interview, after intensifying my investigation at my own expense, which was spent on travel, declare with full responsibility that Mr. Rosenthal was deliberately killed during the mock hijacking of the plane, possibly by my own tribesmen. …

Mr. Rosenthal has publicly declared with all clarity that Jews completely dominate the whole world and that they control all forms of communication and information transfer, including in America.

When asked about Jewish dominance in the United States, Mr Rosenthal replied:

“We Jews are simply amazed at how easily American Christians fall into our hands. While naive Americans are waiting for Khrushchev to bury them (as he promised in the UN), we are teaching Americans to obey our every order."

When asked how a nation could be invaded without realizing it, Mr. Rosenthal attributed this credit to complete control over information and the media in particular. He boasted of Jewish control over all news. Any newspaper that refuses to be controlled is brought to its knees by completely stopping the flow of advertisers to that particular newspaper. If this fails, the Jews stop supplying paper and ink.

When asked about people of high position in government, Mr. Rosenthal replied that in the past thirty years no high-ranking official in the US federal government has been appointed without the approval of organized Judaism.

R. - "The Americans have not had a choice of president since 1932, since Franklin Roosevelt was our man, and every subsequent president was also our man."

When it came to US foreign policy, Mr. Rosenthal dropped all precautions. With contempt, Mr. Rosenthal scoffed at the Americans, who are unable to understand that the whole spectrum of Henry Kissinger's foreign policy is:

- “Zionist-Communist conspiracy from beginning to end. People think that Jewish politics will benefit America."

He mentioned the politics of peaceful existence and Angola as examples of Jewish diplomacy. The American habit of trust only made him grin.

Mr Rosenthal said:

“We are Jews, we are heaping one question after another on the Americans. And we purposefully force opposing viewpoints to heighten the confusion. And when everyone runs into these opposites, they forget to ask themselves the question of who is causing them. We Jews play with Americans like a cat plays with a mouse.

As the conversation dragged on until late, it became clear that perhaps the Americans fully deserve the realm of terror that is planned for them. Organized Judaism pits any ethnic group against one another.

“The blood of the masses will flow like a river as we await our worldwide victory,” said Mr. Rosenthal coldly.

For hours after the interview, I had a feeling of some kind of abnormality. But what if some other nation is just as evil in its intentions? However, the words are heard and the reality is clear. It is understandable that Americans remain indifferent while blood is being released from them.

We do not want harm to anyone, and especially to members of Mr. Rosenthal's family who have been through enough grief. We spoke with his mother and his brother, Mark David Rosenthal, who is attending college in northern California. It was he who just informed us that Mr. Rosenthal's friends have organized a memorial fund in honor of his name. And, he sent us a copy of the document: the Harold Rosenthal Fellowship in International Relations at the American Jewish Committee. ("The Harold W. Rosenthal Fellowship in Inernational Relations" American Jewish Committee, Washington Chapter, 818-18th Street NW, Washington, DC, 10006).

Out of respect, we decided to wait until a year has passed since Mr. Rosenthal's death. As already noted, the interview was very long, as it seemed that he enjoyed pouring all this information on us.

This editor and publisher, not one of the faint of heart, was shocked by such revelations when Mr. Rosenthal boasted of the triumph of the permanent revolution of Organized Judaism. And I repeat, these are all words of the administrative assistant to one of the most influential US senators, Jacob Javitz from New York.

What you read should serve as a warning to all non-Jews in the world. (The slogan "Workers of all countries unite" was in fact a slogan addressed by no means to the proletarians).

Maybe this will open the eyes of many people in Washington who knew Mr. Rosenthal personally.

Obviously Mr. Rosenthal has revealed to us this is not fiction. This is not his personal imagination. Much has been said about the worldwide Jewish conspiracy, but few have said so openly about it. This is amazing.

Judge for yourself.

Looking back to the time of the interview, and having time to analyze the sincerity of Harold Rosenthal, we were left under the impression that he is a hidden, boastful, but at the same time, very knowledgeable person. I would describe him as an egotist and extremist. At times, his cruelty poured out poison on the surface, especially when he mentioned stupid Christians or goyim, as he called us. This surprised me, because there is no such word in English, and he knew it well. His mind was completely immersed in plans to take over the world by organized Judaism. Arrogantly, he boasted that the seizure of the world by organized Judaism was almost finished, thanks to Christian stupidity.

Zionism and Anti-Semitism.

When asked if he was a Zionist, Mr. Rosenthal replied:

- “Wow, little question! At the heart of this question is the traditional Zionist concept of Aliyah, which in Hebrew means "gathered together" in Palestine, as opposed to "DIASPORA", that is, the Jews scattered around the world. Since 1948, with the creation of the State of Israel, ALIYA has become an imperative of Israeli government policy.

I asked Mr. Rosenthal to clarify the meaning of the word ALIYA.

R. - "This is a permanent residence in Israel, not just visits."

We asked what is Zionism?

I have heard that Jews define it very broadly, ranging from resettlement to financial and moral support for Israel around the world.

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Our first Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion said that Zionism without a return is a show. Few American Jews emigrated to Israel. Some say that all Jews are Zionists. Others say that Zionists are only those who regularly pay dues to the local Zionist organization. There are many definitions since the Jewish state became a reality."

We made a note:

“Zionist propaganda and activities have always been based on the false assumption that Jews are Israelis, thus assuming that Palestine is the land of Jews, and that we need to help them get back there and help them build a state. And gullible Christians in English-speaking countries support them in this endeavor.

“The World Zionist Organization is a unique organization with state functions, but taking its strength not from one state, but from seventy-two different states. The main body of this power is the Zionist Congress (Like the Congress of the CPSU, but, historically, quite the opposite, the bodies of the USSR were copies of the World Zionist Organization). More than 200 delegates represent contributors from all countries. Between congresses, power belongs to the Central Committee”(Sanhedrin, an analogue of the Central Committee of the CPSU). - Quote from a talk by Mr. Ettinger, a Zionist jurist, at the Zionist convention in Australia.

Billions of American dollars are sent to Israel every year, and we real Americans - we don't like that.”

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Naive politicians in Washington are too gullible, most of them are not smart enough. Powerful Jewish lobbyists have long ago seized control of everything, and no one can resist them. Some American money comes back from Israel and is spent on Zionist propaganda in America itself (and subversion). Most of this money in America passes through the B'nai Brit Jewish Masonic organization, as well as the Conference of Jewish Organizations (KEP), and the World Jewish Congress (WJC). The so-called Jewish Agency is a fund-distributing body, like the B'nai Brit officials.

There is nothing wrong with sending money to Israel without paying any taxes, since we are smart enough to do it without getting caught.

Let's change the conversation for a minute, you made it clear that you don't like Jews. Why do you hate us?"

W. - “Mr. Rosenthal, I don’t love anyone. I said that I don't like what the Jews are doing to us, especially about Christianity. I do not like their deceit, trickery, deception, and downright unsurpassed dishonesty. What makes me an anti-Semite?"

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Anti-Semitism does not mean the opposite of Semitism. Because there is no such thing - Semitism. And since there is no concept, how can its opposite exist? It is simply a stigma that we Jews use to effectively denigrate and stigmatize anyone who dares to criticize Jews.”

Mr Rosenthal said:

- “During Christ's time, the Jews made a completely earthly and material world Jewish empire. However, Christ offered the Jews only a spiritual kingdom. Of course, they could not accept this handout, and they arranged it so that he was crucified."

W. - What do you mean by “arranged so that he was crucified? Didn't the Jews crucify him?"

To this Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Yes, they did it. I just don't dwell on this. I think that 2000 years ago your people would have crucified a person who wanted to deceive them in the same way that Jesus wanted to deceive us."

D. - Are you talking about Christ as a person?

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“This is what he is - a man who walked the earth like other people; and the fact that he rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples is a common fable.

And, the Jews, having driven the Arabs out of Palestine, did it to refute Christ's mission and his kingdom!

You see, instead of a leader who would give the Jews an empire, you give the Jews a peace-loving preacher named Christ, who, instead of "eye for an eye", turns the other cheek. Nonsense! We are building, and in reality have already almost built a real material world empire without your pathetic Messiah."

W. - I see that these are people like you who want to take Christ out of Christmas. I feel sorry for you.

To this Mr Rosenthal quickly replied:

- “I don’t need to hang noodles on my ears. I don't need your pity. I don't need it. Most Jews do not have the courage to tell you how we live and what we plan, but I am not afraid of anyone or anything. I know where I am going."

When I asked Mr. Rosenthal why Jews often change their names, he replied:

“Jews are the smartest people on earth. Therefore, if it is beneficial for them to change the name, then they do it. And that's it! They mix with your society to corrupt it. Thus, when the Jews benefit, the stupid non-Jews do not understand that they are all the same Jews, but under non-Jewish names.

(For example, the chairman of the State Duma of Russia, Gennady Seleznev, or the chairman of the Bank of Russia, who is always a Jew regardless of anything, Sergei Gerashchenko. Or the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR and Russia has always been a Jew, like the notorious Andrei Andreevich Gromyko, as well as the recent Boris Yeltsin or Yuri Luzhkov) …

I know what you are thinking primarily about Jews in government who use non-Jewish surnames. Don't be burdened, there won't be any presidential power in the United States pretty soon. The invisible government is increasing its momentum in this direction."

Tell me Mr. Rosenthal, are Jews in Russia really persecuted?

To this Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Most of the Jews in the world, I think over 90%, actually know perfectly well what is really happening to Jews anywhere in the world. We have a connection with each other that you cannot even imagine. It is only idiots, fools and degenerates who can find peace in your society, and you sons of bitches hide your sins in sheep's clothing. You are hypocrites, not Jews, as you say and write.

I answer your question: in the USSR there are two different governments: one visible and the other invisible. The visible government is made up of different nationalities, while the invisible government consists only of Jews. The Soviet KGB only obeys orders from an invisible government. In the Communist Party of the USSR, 50% are Jews, and 50% are all the rest, but there is no trust in non-Jews. Jews, communists are organized and trust each other, and the rest only inform on each other. Every five to six years, secret Jewish committees carry out purges, and many non-Jews are liquidated.

When I asked him why? Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Because they begin to guess about the existence of a Jewish invisible government. The communists of the USSR have a secret body consisting only of Jews. They completely control the visible Soviet government. It was this omnipotent committee that made the decision to move the world communist center from Moscow to Tel Aviv, from where all the orders now originate.

What have the Jews done in Russia under the yoke of communism?

I have quoted the following quotation from Nikolai Bukharin's letter to the London Jewish newspaper Universal Review. "La Revue universelle" March 1, 1928.

“Yes, Russia is definitely dying. Nowhere at all exists, and there has never been any class of the population, in any country, whose life would be worse than in the conditions of the Soviet paradise … We are doing experiments on the living body of the Soviet people, damn it, just like in the anatomical a medical student rummaging in the corpse of some vagrant. Read both of our constitutions carefully. In both of them it is sincerely written that in fact, we are not interested in either the Soviet Union or any part of it. What interests us is the universal Jewish world revolution, for which we have always sacrificed everything, including ourselves. Here, in Russia, in our country, where we are absolute masters, we are not afraid of anything at all. A country worn out by wars, epidemics, death and hunger, which are all dangerous, but excellent means for our cause,no longer capable of the slightest protest, not the slightest indignation, constantly being under the vigilant attention of the OGPU and our army. Often we ourselves are surprised at this patience of the people. You can be sure that in the whole USSR there is not a single family where, in one way or another, we would not have killed a father, mother, brother, daughter, and raped too; son, or other close relatives or friends. And great! Nevertheless, Felix Dzerzhinsky calmly walks around Moscow without any protection, and even at night. When we chided him for such negligence, he just laughed and said: “What? - They will never dare, psya krev! (Polish curse. Dzerzhinsky is a Polish Jew)!that in the entire USSR there is not a single family where, in one way or another, we would not have killed a father, mother, brother, daughter, and raped too; son, or other close relatives or friends. And great! Nevertheless, Felix Dzerzhinsky calmly walks around Moscow without any protection, and even at night. When we chided him for such negligence, he just laughed and said: “What? - They will never dare, psya krev! (Polish curse. Dzerzhinsky is a Polish Jew)!that in the entire USSR there is not a single family where, in one way or another, we would not have killed a father, mother, brother, daughter, and raped too; son, or other close relatives or friends. And great! Nevertheless, Felix Dzerzhinsky calmly walks around Moscow without any protection, and even at night. When we chided him for such negligence, he just laughed and said: “What? - They will never dare, psya krev! (Polish curse. Dzerzhinsky is a Polish Jew)!(Polish curse. Dzerzhinsky is a Polish Jew)!(Polish curse. Dzerzhinsky is a Polish Jew)!

And he is absolutely right. They never dare. What a strange country!"

I asked Mr. Rosenthal if the American government and the UN knew about all this?

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“The UN is nothing else but the back door to the world concentration camp. We completely control the UN.

When I asked why the communists are completely destroying the middle, educated class along with their families when they seize power in the country, Mr. Rosenthal said:

“This is a well-established rule: to destroy all members of the previous government, their families and relatives, but never Jews. We kill all police officers, army officers and their families, but never Jews. We know very well that when the government starts looking for communists in their country, in fact, they are trying to find Jews in their country.

- You can't fool us. The invisible governments in communist countries have the entire world propaganda machine at their disposal. We control all media, and even your music and stage. We censor your songs long before they reach publishers. We control even your very thinking.

I said that the way you boast, if that's true, is even scary to think about our future and the future of Christianity.

To this Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Here in America, we are also eliminating entire classes of the population. You, personally, will undoubtedly be among them. As always, no one will touch the Jews. And I'm not boasting. I am giving you the facts! And it's too late for your Christians to prepare for protection, the train has already left. Long, long time ago, when we became aggressors. This is without a doubt the greatest goal in our life. We are the aggressors!"

I told him that I thought he was a cultured person.

To this Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Judaism is a culture that has no equal even anywhere in the world. Even what you call Christianity is just an offshoot of Judaism. The culture of Judaism is what you actually live in, although you are not aware of it. Your entire civilization is the civilization of Judaism."

When I asked him if there was a problem with the rapidly growing black population in the United States, Mr. Rosenthal replied that blacks were helping them serve their purposes.

We discussed the growing number of blacks in cities and suburbs, and in government positions and even on television. They talked about how ridiculous it is for blacks to convert to Jews, to Judaism, as the famous Sammy Davis recently did.

Mr Rosenthal said:

“It doesn't mean anything to us. We know that a black person cannot become a Jew, and that Sammy Davis is still a Negro, not a Jew.

We remembered the quote by Karl Marx that negroes "… people who will have to be rooted out and swept from the surface of the earth." (Karl Marx. Quoted from Nathaniel Weyl).

I told Mr. Rosenthal that I have been researching the Jewish question for many years, and there are few such specialists in the world. I pointed out to him that there is no morality among the Jews.

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Money is more important than morality. We can achieve everything with money. Our people are proving that Israel, which is always on the alert, can now win any clash. Our intellectual elements, raised on kibbutz (Jewish collective farms), will transform this small country into a Middle Eastern miracle. In the future, Israel will be the seat of the World Government.

Then, Mr. Rosenthal and I condemned the Watergate (Impeachment of President Nixon) tragedy and corruption at all levels of government. I suggested that officials were more open with people.

Mr Rosenthal replied:

- “Well, what will it do? What does the public know about how to run a country? (to the question about each cook who led the country in the USSR). Most of the people are donkeys, just donkeys!

D. - Can we quote that?

R. - I do not care what you quote or do not quote. As I said, few have the courage to speak up. We would all, both Jews and non-Jews, have more mutual understanding if we spoke more openly. But, your people don't have the courage. Because we put your very thinking, we even instill in you a sense of guilt for the crimes that we have committed, and we instill in you a sense of fear, even openly criticize Jews.

Jewish religion. Judaism.

We asked Mr. Rosenthal how Jews achieve rapid penetration into other states. His answer this time was long:

“A long time ago, when we were just trying to make our way in this world, the Jews began to think about how to distract the attention of others from the racial issue. What could be more effective, and at the same time free from suspicion, than declaring oneself as a religious community? We borrowed this idea from the goyim. We Jews have never had religious institutions that were the fruit of our own spirit, because we are completely devoid of all idealism. This means that belief in life beyond the earth is completely alien to us. For example, the Talmud is by no means a guide for preparing for life in the afterlife, but provides rules for maximum enjoyment in this very world. The Talmud is a collection of instructions for maintaining the Jewish race and regulating our relationship with non-Jews. Our teachings are not burdened with moral problems, but with "how to get it."

R. - “With regard to the moral value of Judaism, there are many studies that show this religion as strange for non-Jews. We ourselves are the best product that religious teaching can provide. Our life, only from this world, and our mentality is completely alien to the spirit of Christianity, like its founder 2000 years ago. The founder of Christianity made no secret of his appreciation of the Jews, and of the fact that he himself was not one of ours. When he found it necessary, he kicked us out of the Temple, because, as always, we used religion as a vehicle to advance our commercial interests. But at that time we managed to nail Jesus to the cross, for his attitude to us. Modern Christians, by the way, practice the party system, and in order to win elections, they throw mud at each other, begging for Jewish votes. They even intrigue together with us, against the interests of their own nations."

R. - “We can successfully exist among other nations and the state as long as we successfully convince them that we are not a separate nation, but just a religious community. Incidentally, this is one of our greatest deceptions."

R. - “We are obliged to carefully hide our true way of life and our true character. We need this in order to continue to parasitize among other nations. Our success in this has gone so far that many people mistake Jews for real French, British, Italians or Germans, who simply belong to a different faith than the main population in the country. This is especially true in government circles, where officials have only minimal historical concepts, so this is where we cheat relatively easily. And, there was never the slightest suspicion that we, the Jews, constitute not only a separate nation, but also a race, and not just belong to another, similar religion. Although, just a glance at the press controlled by us should have led these fools to suspicion.

This explains the parasitic nature of the Jews. Jews never benefit from each other, but always only from other nations.

The Jews created five myths that are designed to hide their status and position among other nations.

1). Jews are Israelites, and therefore God's chosen people.

2). Jesus Christ is a Jew.

3). 6 million Jews were killed in World War II.

4). All nations and races are equal.

five). Jews are just a religious community.

The power of money.

When we asked him how Jews acquire power, Mr. Rosenthal replied:

“Our power was created by manipulating the monetary system. We are the authors of the saying: "Money is power." It is critical for us to turn the national bank into a private one. In America, the Federal Reserve System fits nicely into our plan, since we are its private owners, but the name we threw up suggests that it is, ostensibly, a government agency. From the very beginning, our goal was to confiscate all the gold and silver, which Franklin Roosevelt did for us right away, and replace it with pieces of paper that have no intrinsic value. We did it!"

When we asked him what non-redeemable notes meant, Mr. Rosenthal replied:

“Until 1968, gullible non-Jews could take any paper federal reserve dollar to any bank and receive a silver dollar for it in the form of a coin containing 412 -1/2 grains of 90% silver. And until 1933, any goy could get for the same one-dollar bill of 25-4 / 5 grains of 90% gold. All that we now give to non-Jews is pieces of paper that have no intrinsic value and copper coins, but we no longer give them either gold or silver, only paper, but for these fools we call them securities. We Jews thrive because of the manipulation of this so-called securities, only they are valuable not for non-Jews, but for us, Jews. This is our method, when we take away from the goyim their labor, services and real values, and in return we give them pieces of paper."

We noticed that Henry Ford in his famous book "International Jewry" in 4 volumes, in the third volume on page 221 said: "The correct solution to the money question will be the end of the Jewish question."

The American Research Foundation president, Robert H. Goldsborough, writes that Mark Jones, financial advisor to John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and president of the National Economic Council in the 60s and 70s, told him personally: the largest corporations and the largest banks control capital flows and debt creation across America."

Walter Wriston, in his book The Twilight of Sovereignity, declares:

“The world can no longer be understood as a collection of individual economies, but as a global economy. A real global economy will demand a complete renunciation of any national sovereignty, which was unthinkable a few years ago. The global information network is internationalist in conviction, and works to erode traditional national sovereignty. The national and international plans of individual nations are increasingly being established not by a certain government, but by the international media."

He also spoke about: "A new world monetary standard, a new world money market and a new world information system." And he said, "There is no way to escape from this system."

We asked Mr. Rosenthal for an example:

- “There are many examples, for example, it is obvious that the stock exchange and stocks, loans and other securities, all types of insurance, and the fractional reserve system practiced by the Federal Reserve System; apart from the fact that we confiscated all your gold and silver in exchange for ordinary pieces of paper, which we call money for your peace of mind. Monetary power was essential in fulfilling our masterful plan to conquer the world through total propaganda."

When we asked Mr. Rosenthal how they conquered the world, he replied:

“By controlling the banking system, we control industrial capital. Through this, we acquired complete control over cinematography, newspapers, radio stations and television. The printing industry, newspapers, magazines have long been in our hands. Most importantly, we have completely mastered the publication of all school teaching materials. Through these levers, we can form not only public opinion, but also the entire worldview of a modern person. People are just stupid pigs who only grunt when we sing our song to them, no matter if it's true or false."

Mind control and processing.

We asked Mr. Rosenthal if the Jews feel threatened by the "silent majority"? But, he just laughed at this assumption and said:

- “In general, there is no such thing as a“silent majority”, because we control everything that comes to them. The only thing there is is a dull majority, which will remain dull as long as our entertainment industry remains their "opium for the people." By controlling the entertainment industry, we set our own tasks, and they are our slaves. When we make their life miserable, we turn on the safety valve and release the pressure, giving them massive entertainment. Television and movies play a vital role in such valves. All programs on television are very carefully designed to appeal to sensuality, but by no means stimulate logical thinking. As a result, the people are zombified in accordance with our goals, and not in accordance with what is happening in reality. "Most",it is never silent - stupid - that is another matter.

We noticed that the well-known American columnist Walter Cronkite said that: "Our task is not to tell the truth, but to shape public opinion."

Mr Rosenthal replied:

“Through fear and intimidation, we castrated society. The masculine principle now exists only against the background of the feminine. There are no men, we have exterminated them. Thus, being castrated, the population became hostile to itself, because it sees no apparent reason for its dire situation. All the thoughts and feelings of the people are not about the future and prosperity, but about how to make ends meet and where to find food."

Manipulation of industry and labor.

When we brought up the question of industry, Mr Rosenthal perked up:

“We have found an excellent solution to split society within ourselves, declaring a class war and opposing the workers to the leaders of enterprises. This is another of our greatest deceptions, because in reality there is a triangle rather than two sides. In modern industry, Capital, which we Jews represent, is an independent force and its pinnacle. And the goyim workers and the leadership (they can also be goyim) are at the base of this triangle. They are constantly pitting against each other, and they do not have time to look up and see the top, from which all problems arise. The management of enterprises is forced to raise the prices of goods, because it is We that increase the cost of using capital. Employees demand higher wagesthe management of enterprises is again forced to raise prices - this is a vicious circle. And we never draw attention to ourselves, because it is in us that the real cause of inflation is. We inflate conflict and class struggles to such an extent that they do not pay any attention to our activities. And this is our increase in the cost of using capital, which starts a vicious circle! And we, we do not work and do not manage enterprises, but we get all the profit! It is through our manipulation of money, the Capital that we sell to industry does not cost us anything ourselves, paper money, numbers, we print and take out of thin air. It is through the "national" bank that we lend to others pieces of paper and figures that cost us nothing ourselves, and this applies to all local branches of the bank. And they, in turn, shift the debt to industry. And here we are more powerful than the Lord God himself, because we create our wealth from nothing, from empty space. Are you surprised? Do not be surprised. It's true, we really do more Lord God. All our global power and wealth are created out of nothing! With capital created out of nothing, we make both entrepreneurs and workers our hopeless debtors, and this debt has no chances to decrease, it only increases - this is how our system is programmed. And since the debt of workers and entrepreneurs to us only increases, we only increase the class struggle between them, so they will never think to unite and attack us together, and create a debt-free and conflict-free industry. Are you surprised? Do not be surprised. It's true, we really do more Lord God. All our global power and wealth are created out of nothing! With capital created out of nothing, we make both entrepreneurs and workers our hopeless debtors, and this debt has no chances to decrease, it only increases - this is how our system is programmed. And since the debt of workers and entrepreneurs to us only increases, we only increase the class struggle between them, so they will never think to unite and attack us together, and create a debt-free and conflict-free industry. Are you surprised? Do not be surprised. It's true, we really do more Lord God. All our global power and wealth are created out of nothing! With capital created out of nothing, we make both entrepreneurs and workers our hopeless debtors, and this debt has no chances to decrease, it only increases - this is how our system is programmed. And since the debt of workers and entrepreneurs to us only increases, we only increase the class struggle between them, so they will never think to unite and attack us together, and create a debt-free and conflict-free industry.and this debt has no chance of decreasing, it only increases - this is how our system is programmed. And since the debt of workers and entrepreneurs to us only increases, we only increase the class struggle between them, so they will never think to unite and attack us together, and create a debt-free and conflict-free industry.and this debt has no chance of decreasing, it only increases - this is how our system is programmed. And since the debt of workers and entrepreneurs to us only increases, we only increase the class struggle between them, so they will never think to unite and attack us together, and create a debt-free and conflict-free industry.

Because the entrepreneur, the management of enterprises, in fact, could use their profit in a better way than giving it to us.

Thus, the capitalist, the capitalist, strife, and this is also another of our biggest deceptions. A real capitalist is reliably hidden from prying eyes in glass skyscrapers, where no one is ever allowed.

The workers would have won, too, if we hadn't been there, and prices would not have risen then. Then the well-being of both entrepreneurs and workers would constantly increase.

We, Jews, are simply mortified by the fact that stupid goyim are never able to understand that it is we who are the capitalists and parasites who consume the lion's share of industry, while workers and entrepreneurs, the fictitious capitalists whom we set up, get everything. smaller and smaller share”.

Control over religion.

Regarding religion, Mr Rosenthal said:

“Religion must be under control, and we have given a lot of influence to this. By owning the press and printing textbooks, we secure a position of authority on religious matters. Many of our rabbis are professors of theology at Christian schools. We are simply amazed at the stupidity of non-Jews who receive our teachings from our hands and think that they are their own thoughts. America is truly a country not of Christianity, but of Judaism, and what they preach in their Christian churches is pure Judaism. As a result of our control, the Christian Church in America has become our most ardent ally. And this gives us a completely unique place in the Christian society in America, because it is the Christian church in America that spreads the concept that we are Jews - God's chosen people, and they are simply non-Jews,that is, the unelected."

“These schizophrenic churchmen protect us Jews to the point that they destroy their own culture. This truth, after all, is understandable to any idiot who read at least a little history, because the whole story is the history of the physical destruction of the goyim at the suggestion of the Jews. We completely controlled England during the American Revolution; we completely controlled the North during the Civil War; we completely controlled both England and the USA during the First and Second World Wars. Through our infiltration into the church, we have been able to engage unsuspecting Christians in ceaseless wars against each other that have only always led to poverty, hunger and further extinction, while we count the profits and build up political advantages. Everytime,when someone starts to attack us and tries to draw attention to us, we simply set dull Christians on them, and they attack those who dare, even if they are members of their own families.

Jews do not have to have a finger on every button that is causing the destruction of Christian civilization. In many cases they have enough non-Jewish volunteers to do this.”

R. - “Through the Christian religion we have acquired complete control over society, government and economy. Not a single law was adopted in the state without first promoting it from church pulpits. An example of this is the intensified propaganda of racial incest and the reproduction of bastards, which is detrimental to any people and race. Naive confessors unanimously instruct their parishioners that we are God's chosen people, and immediately convince everyone that all other races are the same! No, just think! Such idiocy! And all this is easily swallowed! The fact that one contradicts the other, it does not reach them! Thus, we Jews enjoy special privileges while everyone else is reduced to equality. And this is the old riddle of the slogan of equality, because it is equality for the rest, but not for us,and this equality is in slavery. That is why we are promoting the slogan of universal equality. Because in fact this slogan does not apply to us. And this is also one of our great deceptions."

R. - “We teach from Christian church pulpits that our predatory economic methods are, in fact, fully consistent with Christian principles. Church parrots idolize Mamon just for our money, which we lend to them (but never just like that) to build a new church. It never occurs to them that their own religion forbids interest and debt. They agree to pay any high interest, they will still collect later from the parishioners.

Politically, the clergy praise democracy, not realizing that through this political system, which we called "democracy", we have placed the state and society under our complete and total control. This is democracy for us, not for you, but you will not understand this. Christ teaches them the kingdom of God on earth, which cannot be anything other than a despotic state with the extremely cruel maintenance of morality, order and legality in the country, while democracy is management through chaos, a crowd, random people for the country that we are we choose and buy at our discretion. We exercise this control over these random people through the church, the media and banking institutions. Their Christian church has long been simply one of the levers through which we exercise our power. The stupidity of Christian clergy is surpassed only by their cowardice, therefore they are very easy to control."

Continuation of the interview.

Rosenthal:

- “Since we do not believe in life after death, all our efforts are directed at“this moment”. We are not as stupid as you and will never accept an ideology based on self-sacrifice. While you will live and die for the common cause, we live and die only for our own personal interests. The idea of self-sacrifice is abhorrent to Jews. She is disgusting to me personally. There is no reason to justify death, because death is the end of everything. We unite to preserve ourselves. It's like wolves unite to attack the victim, and then scatter when the task is completed; in this way, we, the Jews, unite because of the danger, not in order to preserve the community, but in order to save our own skin.

This essence permeates our entire being and philosophy. We are not creators because creating is for the benefit of others. We - "got", and are interested only in satisfying ourselves. To understand our essence, we must delve into the meaning of the word "get it." We never give, but only take. We do not work, but we enjoy the work of others. We do not create, but we confiscate. We are not producers, but parasites. We can physically live in any country, but spiritually, we always live separately. To work is to produce, and the highest form of work is creativity. You always work for the fruits of your labor, it brings you satisfaction. We will never work for the benefit of another, but only to get hold of. We use this feature of the goyim for our prosperity. You will work for the joy of seeing the fruits of your labor, and you won't even ask for payment. We use your productivity for just a minimal handout and turn it into fabulous fortunes.

Until recently, in society, pride in its skill surpassed the general pursuit of money. However, we turned out to be able to enslave society with our power, which is money. We made everyone run after money, that is, we actually converted people to our religion. That is, we have instilled in people our philosophy of getting and acquiring, in such a way that they will never be satisfied. And dissatisfied people are pawns in our chess game of conquering the world. Thus, they are always seeking and can never achieve satisfaction. At the very moment when they begin to seek happiness outside, and not within themselves, they disappeared and become our obedient servants.

Your people have never been able to understand that we only offer them useless soap bubbles that can never bring satisfaction. They begin to get the item, get it, but they never get enough. Then we present them with another item to reach. We can provide these cravings for non-Jews in an endless way. You get used to our drug, and you can no longer live without your owners.

Our first and fundamental lie is that we are not a nation, but a religion. All other kinds of lies are consistently based on this one. Our main fear is that this lie will be revealed; because we realize that we will be trampled right at the moment when the public learns the truth about us, then nothing will stop it to tear us apart. It is becoming apparent that some enlightenment is taking place even here in America. We hoped that after we ate Christian Germany, everything related to dreams would be taboo for talking. However, here in America, where we keep everything under strict control, it seems that interest in this has again awakened. Currently, we are even discussing options for withdrawing from this country, because we know that if this has begun, it can no longer be stopped. All our efforts will only strengthen the tendency against us.

We are afraid that light is seeping through the earth, especially in America. We are surprised how you reach people when, it would seem, we cut off all channels of information. We are afraid that there will be a smell of pogroms in America. The American public is beginning to realize that we are turning everyone around, and this is our fatal mistake. This country can never be free as long as there is at least one Jew in the country. This discovery of the Gentiles will be the end for us.

People have always been fooled by our propaganda that a fountain pen, a feather, is always mightier than the sword. We literally extricate ourselves from the wettest affairs, and we leave non-Jews only to talk about it, which is absolutely without effect, since we, as masters of propaganda, immediately publish mutually contradictory testimonies.

If non-Jews look back at history and learn their lessons, then they will throw away the pen in disgust, and throw up the sword with passion. In the meantime, we avoid the sword, and some periodic pamphlet with limited circulation does not count. A non-Jewish pen cannot compare with ours, but we are constantly afraid that non-Jews will open their eyes and it will reach them that they will not change anything with the pen. History is written in blood, not ink. Never before has a letter, article or book roused the people to fight and stopped tyranny. We understand this clearly, and therefore constantly advise people to write to the president, congress, or local press. We can fearlessly exploit, intimidate, and expropriate Americans while they still have the illusion that we can educate the masses with printed material. But woe to us if non-Jews guess this,put aside the pen and take the sword.

R - “Most Jews don't want to admit it, but our God is Lucifer” - the above quote is literal by Harold Wallace Rosenthal, administrative assistant to billionaire Senator Jacob Javitz.

At the end of the interview, I had a falling out with Mr. Rosenthal and accused him of being dishonest about my question:

W. - "Do you know when and why the story began that the Jews are God's chosen people?"

Then Mr Rosenthal said:

“Most Jews don't want to admit it, but our god is Lucifer. Therefore, I'm not lying, we are Jews - his, Lucifer, the chosen people. Lucifer is alive."

Part two

Then the dialogue continued in this way:

W. - Mr. Rosenthal, when the real history of humanity seeps to the surface, what do you think non-Jews will do to Jews?

R. - I thought we finished this interview.

W. - I'm curious, and I think this question deserves your answer.

R. - We finished, White, and now you have started pumping me up again. I have already answered you on the basic "stone tables", what else do you want?

D. - What does this mean, stone tables?

R. - Never mind, you Christians still won't understand.

D. - So you are trying to insult me as a Christian? I thought we were doing the interview in a work environment?

R. - (Mumbled something indistinctly).

D. - Whatever it means, you are using words that I have never heard. You speak English?

R.- I said ------.

D. - Tell me by syllables.

R.- M-I-Sh-N-A. This is from the Talmud. Let's not stop there. We're not going anywhere, and other than that, we're already finished.

U. - Are you afraid?

R. - Who the hell do you think I am? I am not afraid of anyone or anything, but I have already given you enough information for a book.

W. - Didn't I pay you according to our agreement?

R. - Yes, they paid, but you want more. Okay, you want to know what happens when people know the real story?

U. - I phrased the question a little differently, but go on.

R. - I don't care what your people will think. And then, whatever happens, you and I will be dead. Does this satisfy you?

W. Here you have not answered two or three more questions, according to my list, but which are important to me.

R. - What else is there?

W. - The story of 6 million Jews allegedly burned by the Germans.

R. - So what?

W. - Do you know which Jewish organization is responsible for this heinous lie?

R. - I know nothing about authenticity and I think it doesn't matter.

W. - Mr. Rosenthal, I think you know more. Young people are brought up on a lie, and you say it doesn't matter.

R. - This is all military stuff, besides everyone knows that Hitler hated Jews. I think that someone, somewhere, has twisted the figure. However, many Jews died in the war.

U. - You know very well that there were less than 250,000 Jews in all of Germany, and tens of thousands have already emigrated.

R. - So what? As I said, Jews are the smartest people on earth. I think one of them came up with a figure, and then it increased even more. We control the information, and this gives us everything. Otherwise, not us, so you will lie your lies.

W. - That is, it’s nothing for you.

R. - Our people are trained to listen only to our mentors, and not to your teachers and your laws.

W. - You live in America, Mr. Rosenthal. And it is your responsibility to comply with the laws of this country. Your religion teaches that you can take a state oath, but if it does not suit you, then you can tacitly not keep this oath. I have a copy of your prayer, not this account, which is called Kol Nidre. This is absolutely certain. This prayer of yours forgives you perjury.

(Kol Nidre, this is a prayer that is in the Talmud, in the book of Nedarim (Oaths). It is read every year in the synagogue before the Jewish New Year. It removes sins from Jews for all perjury).

R. - The Jews no longer practice this oath business. I'm sure.

D. - But still, they don't keep their oaths? With the approval of the rabbi?

R. - Yes, to a certain extent.

D. - Is that not a sin?

R. - This is for your way of thinking. I already told you that we: you and we are different. We are different people, our beliefs are completely different (This is the question of equality). We have been learning this century. It is not a sin for us to take any oath and break it. This is our teaching.

W. I have left one more important question for last.

R. - Listen, White, if you go further, my time is money. We agreed, but you are extending. You have tapes, and you can listen to them as much as you want, you just can't multiply tapes, under any circumstances. Or we'll cut your eggs off.

W. - Who are we?

R. - Become clever, and you will guess right away. You don't want problems, and neither do I. You abide by our agreement and nobody will be touched. Now give your rest of the money. Okay?

W. - I intend to abide by our agreement, and it is my word of honor that these tapes are only for my personal interview writing work. We agreed, and I will keep my word. You will receive your money in one minute.

R. - I have friends White, I know a lot of people, and I do not want them to read things that I did not say. I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks, but I don’t want notions. You only write what I have said.

W. - We understand each other perfectly, Mr. Rosenthal. Now for the next question.

R. - Come on, just remember that I need money to spend in Las Vegas.

W. - I'm sure you know where the story came from, that the Jews are God's chosen people (again, to the question of equality)?

R. - We are God's chosen people!

W. - Do you really believe that, Mr. Rosenthal?

R. - Maybe I'll explain, although Jake would give you a better answer.

W. - Who is this, Jake?

R.- Senator Jake (Jacob) Javitz. You know my boss. He is the person I work for and he is a very smart person. He would have answered you better.

U. - I need your answer.

R. - You and we, in reality, we have different Gods.

D. - So you answer the Jews themselves?

R. - For our God we are the chosen ones. So we are taught from the cradle.

W. - This is an evasive answer. I don’t believe him. You know what I'm asking about.

R.-Okay, I don't care about you.

D. - Do your people really believe that Jesus Christ was a Jew?

R. - Damn, are we going back again? We have already discussed this.

W. That was before I turned on the recorder.

R. - Well, I cannot be responsible for all Jews. As I understand it, what do the Jews in the world generally think about this?

U. - Yes.

R.- Jake would have answered that better.

D. - Please, I don't want to hear about Senator Javitz anymore. I want to hear your answer.

R.-White, I know what you are asking for. When I was a little boy, a child, we were taught very, very smartly. In many countries, long ago, there was a period of time when we were expelled from almost every country. From France, from Spain.

U. - Yes, I know that.

R. - Was it France or Spain?

W. - Perhaps both, but I vividly remember the story of how patient the Spanish Queen Isabella was with the Jews, until her eyes were opened. But keep going.

R. - Well, the Jews then had a very intelligent rabbi, the leader of world Judaism, whose advice was highly valued throughout the world. He said then that Jews should pretend that they are more Christians than Christians themselves, and wait and make the necessary sacrifices. We have always been ready to sacrifice several thousand Jews for the sake of world domination. This is a small price to pay, and there is nothing wrong with that. I was taught that we should become lawyers so that we can control and entangle courts and judges if they are not Jews. We must be doctors and teachers and priests of all churches - and this goal is practically fulfilled. I have already said, and I will repeat again, that we have fulfilled the goal, and we will completely rule the whole world, even before I die. We have been very successful in keeping non-Jews in a chaotic state. It is we who purposefully create chaos. You are not stupid, White,you know that Jews are successful because they are close-knit. We die one after the other, if necessary. We fund ourselves generously. Thus, it is clear how we rule everywhere. We run American foreign policy. We are the world's super-government. Is that not enough?

W. - Go on, it's interesting.

R. - We are the most powerful organized group of people in the world. Do you believe it?

U. - You say it so confidently …

R. - We can quickly destroy the economy of any country, without them even guessing about it. If we want to. I think this is what you want to hear?

W. - I want you to tell me the truth, Mr. Rosenthal.

R. - Yes, that's right. We are smart, we are omnipotent. At some point, we will mix your women with black men, and at 50, everything will be mixed. Blacks love your white women and we inspire them to do great things.

D. - I remember you mentioned that the black ones serve your purpose.

R. - Yes, we use them for our great benefit and purpose.

D. - And I assume that after that, you destroy them?

R. - If necessary, then yes! You know, and we know that this is an inferior race, a stupid race, but it can be useful to us, with the help of money. I mean really big money! Negroes will do anything for money. And when the time comes, and maybe you will live to see this, when we will have complete control and order them to finish with you, while you, stupid Christians, will wait for your Christ, this impostor, as your savior.

(White's note: It was the Jews who brought all the blacks to America on Jewish ships and sold them through Jewish auctions.)

W. - You paint a grim picture.

R. - Not at all. And what do you want, because we are at the top!

U. - And if the citizens find out these plans, they will be very angry.

R. - I ask you: how?

You personally cannot reach people. We control the media so much that no one can reach out to people but through our channels. We've got it all! All your churches are under our control, and now we also control the school system in the United States. It is the reality that we are in complete control of Christianity. Almost everywhere - completely.

D. - I find many of the things you say disgusting, and the way you say it …

R. - This is what you want to hear, otherwise you would not have paid money for the interview.

D. - Since you tell me the truth. But, you did not answer my question: do you believe that Christ was a Jew?

R. - As I said, Jake could give you an intelligent answer. I know that most of our friends, relatives and people among whom I grew up, all our friends, in general all friends - they do not believe that Christ was a Jew. He is an impostor and deceiver of millions of people.

The whole world knows that Christianity was based on lies, on an incorrect translation of the Bible. Christ was a rogue. Even the National Council of Churches agreed that there were incorrect translations of this book, which you respect. All this is created on a lie.

(The National Council of Churches is a Jewish-founded organization.)

U. - According to the latest research, your ancestors are not even from the Middle East, but the Asian Khazars. They have never seen the Middle East. How then can you be the chosen people?

R. - So what? Who cares?

U. - We have always been taught that Jews are people chosen by God. So there is a difference, a big difference.

R. - What a big difference?

U. - Because this proves that the overwhelming majority of modern Jews (Ashkenazi - Jews of Eastern origin) are of Khazar origin. Therefore, they have never been in Palestine, in Jerusalem and have never entered into an agreement with God, and the agreement comes out - no …

R.- (shouts). Damn, what difference does it make now?

D. - I find most of what you say disgusting, and your arrogant way of bragging, recognizing the existence of a serpentine plan against all humanity. And at the same time, you suddenly easily declare that there is no difference. Most of what you said to me here just stuns me, I have no words …

R.- (Interrupts) Because you are a goy. You do not understand and you will never understand until it is too late for you. And I personally hope that the American people … (Mr. Rosenthal stopped here).

W. - You said a lot of things here that a normal person would not be able to believe.

R. - That is why we control you now. The biggest reason. Your people cannot believe that any nation can accomplish what we have done in just a few hundred years. Goyim are stupid. We are intelligent. I will soon be a VIP in and around Washington. I will have national importance. You will hear a lot about me in the future. I am still young and have the courage to tell you something that no Jew will ever dare to tell you, at least in public. I'm sticking my neck out, White. Some of what I have told you is part of the inner, invisible circle of Jewry.

W. - I look at you and see a rare creature, all of you … (Rosenthal interrupts).

R. - Nobody can call me a creature and get off easily.

W. - You are terrible, vile and disgusting …

R. - I will knock your head off for the creature …

U. - If I were you, I would not contact. I also have many friends, and many of them would like to get to you. Therefore, let's stick to the framework, as we agreed at first.

R. - Oh Wei! And then: Oh vey from the world (in Hebrew).

When I asked what this meant, he said that I would not understand everything early.

W. - Many times, when people turn to a Jew, I have heard these words: "Well, I understand that he is a Catholic or a Presbyterian …" I would like to hear your opinion or an explanation of how you Jews think about other Jews who have converted to another religion. Are they not Jews anymore?

R. - The best way to answer this is, I do not know who your father and mother were by nationality …

W. - My father was English and my mother was German.

R. - Now, if you want to convert to Judaism and attend synagogue, will that erase your Anglo-German origin?

D. - Of course not, but I would like to hear from a dedicated Jew; that is, are you claiming that he or she will always remain Jewish?

R. - You fool, you fool, we are always Jews! No matter where we step into or what we join, it doesn't change who we are. I am a Jew, and nothing can change me, even if I cross myself twenty times and become a Hare Krishna forty more times. What a fool you are!

D. - And the Jews do all this?

R. - We have a talent for creating chaos for you.

D: Yes, you are masters of deception, and it was this fraudulent practice of yours that helped you get your hands on all the governments in the world?

R. - Why not? Why can't we get our hands on banks, universities, churches, goyim governments, if the goyim themselves are not smart enough to govern themselves? A few years ago, I would not have been able to talk to you so freely, but now everything is different. Now nothing can change what we have already done, so I can already speak more freely. What I am discovering, other Jews might say if they had more courage. We are a nation without modesty.

W. - Are you sure what you said about the Jews?

R. - We can have our own opinion on some particulars, but not in the main.

W. - Who are we?

R. - My people, Jews. We are united, and no incidents can disturb our unity.

W. - I heard that Jews can fight with ferocity with each other?

R. - This is completely different. Of course, we can sort things out with each other, but when necessary - we are one force! Our strength is through cunning to split the ranks of the goyim. This is the most powerful weapon and we master it perfectly. You are not smart enough to resist us.

U. - (This is also confirmed in the Old Testament: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?", Or in the parable of the seeds and tares, which says that the tares will be burned. Nothing will save from the all-pervading fire, and no one will be turned into seeds. Lord God, will not turn the tares into what they never were and cannot become).

R. - We Jews have a culture that you goyim are unable to understand. Jews live a family life. Our culture requires a high level of education. We set the standard for our children to surpass their parents. Our people continue to show tremendous educational progress. The success of our children does not depend entirely on schools, but on family life. We are proud of these achievements. You are not our competitors. More than 12,000 doctors graduate from medical schools in the United States every year, and 10,000 of them are Jews. There are even more Jews among law students. Jews have such a solid base here in the United States that any opposition to them is only temporary. You know, we are just writing over the stories about six million murdered Jews, about the fact that Christ was a Jew, and about God's chosen people. This shows our unity, which has no equal in the world. We Jewsunited with those Jews whom we have never even seen, and will never see!

W. - Mr. Rosenthal, I hope you did not lie to me, because we cannot make any claims against you in case of your deception. You understand?

R. - Everything that I told you is true - everything in general. I don't have to lie.

W. - I understand, and here's Mr. Rosenthal the rest of your money, which we owe you for the interview.

Epilogue.

Dear reader, after I turned off the recorder, I accused Mr. Rosenthal of not fully answering all the questions that were offered to him, including the question of why Jews are God's chosen people.

Mr Rosenthal replied:

- “We are God's chosen people. Most Jews don't like to talk about it, but our god is Lucifer, so I didn't lie, we are the people chosen by Lucifer. Lucifer is alive!"

I was speechless. I had nothing to say. I have observed an arrogant, boastful personality that sometimes completely changes like a chameleon changes its color. Many times he showed his hatred pouring out with poison. At the end, I had the feeling of being in contact with dirt.

Much of what Harold Rosenthal talked about is slowly surfacing. We veterans of this front have known this for a long time. However, it is shocking when you get everything in one package at once. Most likely, Harold Rosenthal was killed because he talked too much about it in Washington. Thus, his death is the best confirmation of what he himself said.