Famous all over the country "ufologists" from all sorts of UFO centers shamelessly "fool our brother", squeezing money out of gullible simpletons, simultaneously engaging in suspicious fraud with cars of our and "non-our" production. In the ranks of ufological groups, there is a bickering for the best piece of the pie, and to warm up the public, silly tales of clairvoyants, sucked from the finger, are sometimes thrown into the press, which are associated with aliens living on a planet with some obscene name. Lies and financial confusion are everywhere. Soon the word "ufologist" will probably become synonymous with the word "swindler".
On the other hand, I recall the story of my friend, who served as an officer in one of the missile units in Belarus: - The guys immediately warned me: if, they say, you see something unusual, don't be afraid, we often have this, all sorts of glowing balls fly and mysterious things like this happen. And then he called the special officer and said: if you see something "like that" - come straight to me. In my opinion, the committee collected all such information … And in order to understand the situation on both sides, to separate the grain from the chaff, I went to a serious researcher of the UFO problem, scientific supervisor of the topic "Study of unidentified flying objects" in the Interindustry Scientific technical cooperative complex "Ocean" B. Shurinov: - Boris Apollonovich, I know, you recently returned from France, from the international congress of ufologists. What was this convention? - Representatives from many countries came to Marseille, interesting reports were made, discussions were held.
For the first time, representatives of the Islamic world participated, even the Syrian consul sat. It's funny, but they gave examples from the Koran about UFO sightings in the history of the Muslim world. The Italians made a report at a very high scientific level on the study of the UFO landing site. Thus, the world today knows two serious studies of landing sites. The first was made in France, in Trans-en-Provence. An eyewitness who observed the landing and takeoff of an unknown object reported this to the gendarmerie. And the gendarmes have instructions that oblige them to report all such incidents to the National Center for Space Research in Toulouse (analogous to the American NASA).
Scientists came from Toulouse, took samples of soil, grass … I have this report, you see how many tables, graphs, diagrams it contains. It turned out that, in comparison with the control samples, the samples from the planting site underwent strong biochemical changes, the soil monocrystallized, as if it had been calcined for several hours at 1000 ° C. I made a report at this congress on the socio-psychological hypothesis, which now has many supporters in Europe. In the USA, by the way, the position of adherents of the extraterrestrial hypothesis is very strong. - And what are you working on now at Ocean? - We have at our disposal a unique film, not cut into separate frames, which will go down in the history of ufology. A 12-year-old boy snapped off 14 frames, which show the dynamics of the UFO movement, the appearance of the second (small) object. The film is studied in one of the research institutes,where are the geometric studies of negatives. Their reliability is beyond doubt, but study, of course, is absolutely necessary. - Thousands of magnificent UFO pictures wander around the world, all the details are visible on them. Aren't you afraid that yours will fade against their background? - No, 99.9 percent of these pictures are fakes.
For example, photographs called "Golf Breeze" went around the world, and they were shown on television here too - the plate hovered over the highway and even slightly illuminates the bottom of the roadbed. Photo-examination of the negative has established that this is not a photomontage, but a real object. Hooray! Evidence! But six months later, a model of this object was found in the author's attic.
A terrible scandal erupted, which for some reason did not reach the USSR. The author of the fake did not make a photomontage, like others, he acted more cunningly - he made a life-size plate with lanterns and photographed it.
Since then, for many ufologists who were involved in the story with these images, the spma problem of UFOs faded into the background, they had to fight for their reputation.
At a recent conference of ufologists in Moscow, where mostly naive reports were heard, a film about a UFO, filmed in Switzerland by a certain Mayer, was shown with great fanfare. - I know this fake. This case was dealt with by the French researcher Jacques Valais. It turned out that Billy Meyer is not a “simple farmer”, as it was presented, but a professional who makes decent money on such things. By the way, he never presented the negatives, but only by them it is possible to determine the authenticity.
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- Recently, information has appeared in the Western and our media that a flying saucer was created in Nazi Germany by German scientists. This was reported in the press, on the radio … - This story has nothing to do with UFOs. From the aerodynamic point of view, the behavior of disc-shaped objects is of some interest. There have been many attempts to create a flying disc.
In 1942, German engineer Zimmermann built a flying disc called the "flying pancake." The disk took off almost vertically, the speed exceeded 700 kilometers per hour. But he was very unstable, and the "pancake" had to be abandoned. Later, in 1943, in Shtetsin's laboratories, a group of German specialists went to work on the F-7 disco-idallic helicopter.
In 1944, it was built and made its first flight. After the defeat of Germany, drawings and copies kept in Keitel's safes were not found. They tried to create a flying disc in the USA, but it didn't work out. There were such attempts in France. And at the dawn of aviation, the famous Russian inventor Anatoly Ufimtsev built an airplane with a round wing, but his spheroplan never took off.
In 1957, a disc-plane of Novosibirsk designers was tested in the Moscow region. - You have been dealing with the UFO problem for many years. Did you have any troubles with the administrative and legal authorities, the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Have there been any pressure attempts? - With the KGB - no. But in 1985, a very responsible comrade, I will not give his name, from the department of administrative bodies of the Central Committee of the CPSU in a telephone conversation "advised" to stop engaging in UFOs, otherwise, he said, "we will find a way that will discourage you from this desire." - Is it true that in many countries UFO research is classified and supervised by special services? - Yes. Remember the famous Marshall Plan?
So, this same Marshall, who can hardly be suspected of wanting to joke, on February 26, 1942, sent a secret memorandum on the UFO sighting over Los Angeles to the president. By the way, at the beginning of the war, flying discs began to appear over Germany and the United States. Both belligerents mistook them for the enemy's new weapon. Perhaps this prompted the parties to engage in the construction of discs.
There are many facts showing the interest of the special services in UFOs. By the way, one of the pre-election promises of US President Jimmy Carter, thanks to which he gained an additional number of votes in the elections, was the declassification of work on UFOs. Carter came to the White House as a winner and … could do nothing. His good intention was stuck due to powerful resistance.
He managed to declassify only a few, not very significant documents. - What can you say about the sensational statement of the famous ufologist Azhazhi that aliens have already abducted more than 5,000 people and took them with them? - Well, what can you say about such a joke?.. Azhazha is Azhazha. Not the first time. - Does your company have anything more substantial than a UFO film? - You want to say something more interesting … Actually, there is, but I would not want to say anything, the case is still being studied, so I will give a minimum of information.
Someone A., 67 years old, visited, according to him, the “object”, after which strange changes occurred in his body, registered by doctors. In particular, two new teeth grew, which forced the replacement of dentures. I myself have seen these teeth and even … However, I will not say anything yet, it will all look too fantastic. Better you don't write about this A. at all, we will study it yet … - No, the word is not a sparrow. I will definitely write. Could someone with similar cases provide details?