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Orenburg. At the house in the background the lower windows are laid, and at the house closer - the level of the windows is up to a person's waist, and the roof is at a level slightly higher than the height of a person. "This is how they built, cultural layer, basement, subsidence" - what else can skeptics suggest?
Below are examples from Orenburg.
Somehow deserted. Did the camels eat all the vegetation?
Pay attention to the entrances to the basements (on the left in the photo). An interesting trick is to bring them to the front of the house, to the central street. It is more logical to do this in the courtyards. Maybe these are the original entrances to the buildings, which were adapted for the entrance to the basement? If you look closely, the entrances to the first floor are made in the window openings - you can see the door, and around it the window glazing.
Promotional video:
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After viewing many photographs of old houses with columns, I came to the conclusion that earlier in the Russian Empire there was a single project of such buildings:
Museum in Orenburg.
Yaroslavl. Office building.
The Demidovs' estate in Moscow. per. Bolshoi Tolmachevsky, 3.
Four Seasons Hotel Lion Palace. St. Petersburg.
Music and Pedagogical Institute named after the Gnesins.
Moscow, house on st. Yauzskaya.
The selection of similar photos can be continued. But everyone can do it himself by asking in the search by the picture in the search engine.
These buildings are united by a single style (design). Second floor with columns and full entrance with high doors.
Now we look at the following examples and compare them with the one we just looked at:
St. Petersburg. Kamennoostrovsky Palace. Now the Academy of Talent.
The entrance is made through the windows of the second floor.
Probably what is now basements - it was a full-fledged floor according to the original project.
Next example:
Moscow. House of Major General N. Z. Khitrovo. Everything is clear here. The building has been excavated and is located below the current ground level.
Muscovites, don't you see such examples? Who is interested in this topic - take pictures, post them on social networks, send them for discussion. This should be discussed and an explanation should be sought.
On the other hand.
An old photograph of the estate. Pay attention to the ground level and low entrances.
Dnepropetrovsk Academic Theater of Russian Drama. M. Gorky.
Perm State University. Obviously, one column was demolished in the middle of the building and the entrance was cut through.
Building in Barnaul. They did not make an entrance here, although it was most likely lower. As in the examples at the beginning.
Dostoevsky's Apartment Museum. No comment.
Example from yuri_shap2015: Bolshaya Nikitskaya, 58. Now it's some kind of restaurant. And in 1998, we had an office there. A small two-storey house.
Link to the map. The upper floor (which is now the second - a wooden building (allegedly lived in the house of Goncharova, so it survived). The first floor is brick about a meter thick.
Basement with windows in a pit with a canopy. The windows of the first and second floors are absolutely identical, the thickness of the walls, too. The ceiling of the basement overlap is vaulted, a la the Faceted Chamber. And most importantly - in the closet room, there is a pronounced locked door. Which leads directly into the earth behind the wall, into the courtyard.
Modern (at the time of 1998) TWO entrances - one to the street, the second to the courtyard, made on the site of the former windows. this was evident from their structure (as they were doing repairs). Directly across the road is a manor house (Bolshaya Nikitskaya 52 / Povarskaya 55, WITHOUT ENTRANCE AT ALL.
That is, the current entrance is from the side, going down through the side wings. The main entrance, somewhere in the ground, and it certainly was …
And there are hundreds of such buildings in Moscow …
Examples can be continued. The differences in the types of buildings that are identical in style (and, possibly, design), I think, are understandable.
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Observation of the arches found during the examination in the basements of old houses.
Vologda. Skulyabinsk almshouse. As you can see, the arch is above ground level. And a row of columns - well above the ground. I believe that this structure was built according to all the same projects as before the cataclysm.
A good selection of old photographs in the regions of Russia
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Cafe "Typical Peter" is located in the basement of a three-story building number 20 on Izmailovsky St. Petersburg. A hot water pipe with a diameter of 300 millimeters passes by its rear windows. Its maximum service life expired last year, but, as Fontanka was told in St. Petersburg Heating Network, the industrial safety examination extended its life until 2020. The pipe was not changed for the heating season, it began on September 28. A breakthrough and soil erosion formed.
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Information concerning the main version of such a picture of the presence of ancient buildings (at least for me) is the liquefaction of soils and the release of water and mud masses during earthquakes. More details - here.
N. Zealand after the 2011 earthquake
Outputs of water and clay.
Similar events that took place in September 2018:
After the earthquake on the island of Sulawesi in Indonesia, soil liquefaction occurred.
Earthquake liquefaction in Indonesia in September 2018
A powerful earthquake on the island of Sulawesi led to soil liquefaction in the city of Palu. As a result, at least 744 houses were destroyed or damaged by waves of mud, the height of which reached 8m, some of them simply fell into the ground.
A huge landslide near Katav-Ivanovsk in the Urals
Soil liquefaction after earthquakes in September.
A spontaneous natural phenomenon was discovered by residents of Katav-Ivanovsk on September 25. “Something comes out of the ground and knocks down trees,” so they described what they saw. It was repeated after 09/30/18.
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Similar, but more catastrophic, processes could have caused clay outcrops and put cities in the past. The only weak point in this version is whether such earthquakes could have happened in an area where they do not happen now? It turns out that they could:
Old Russian chronicles contain information about a strong earthquake in Russia (!) That occurred on May 3 (10), 1230. The earthquake was observed over a very large area from Novgorod to Kiev.
The largest chronicle-chronographic work of ancient Russia and all of medieval Europe - the Obverse Chronicle Code, created in the 16th century in the Aleksandrovskaya Sloboda - tells the following about these events:
About shaking the earth. On the 3rd day of May, during the Holy Liturgy, when the Holy Gospel was read in the Church of the Most Holy Theotokos in Vladimir, the earth shook; and the church, and the throne, and the icons moved on the walls; and chanted with candles, and the candlesticks shook; people were amazed and thought that each of them was dizzy; and they began to tell each other what had happened to them, and wondered what it was. It was in …
… in many churches and in the houses of the masters; and in other cities it was.
In Kiev, the city is even more, the biggest shock was. In the Pechersk Monastery, the stone church of the Blessed Virgin Mary split into 4 parts; there were Metropolitan Kirill, and Prince Vladimir, and the boyars, and many people came together; for the holiday was on that day, the day of the memory of Father Theodosius.
The stone throne also shook, when Food and Drink had already been brought to it; and all this was suppressed by stones falling from above; the whole throne did not fall, nor the top of it.
In Pereslavl the Russian Church of St. Michael split in two; the vault of three arches with a roof also fell; and suppressed the icons, and chanted with candles, and candlesticks; it happened in one day, and in one hour, throughout the whole earth, during the Liturgy.
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Dungeons of Old Sacramento
There are many old tunnels underneath the city of Sacramento, California. The official history of their formation:
In 1861 and 1862, severe storms broke out in and around Sacramento and rained nonstop for nearly three months. The city was completely flooded. After that, the authorities decided to build a new Sacramento so that the tragedy with the flood would not repeat itself and this city had to stand on levels higher than the old one. The river flows were changed, a dam was built, and new ones were built on top of the old streets with houses.
Look and think: the photographs show a flood. Could this volume of stagnant water bring buildings up to meters? Well, silt will be deposited, clay 5-10 cm thick. But not meters. This can only be done by a mudflow or by falling soil from above. Either this mud came out during earthquakes - the phenomenon of soil liquefaction.
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Comparison of photographs of excavations in Italy (Ostia Antica) with a modern view:
Here you can see the ancient level on which the buildings were built. Much has not yet been excavated. What kind of mudflow covered the ancient city?
As it was before and during the excavation.
Continued: Part 30
Author: sibved