A day before Hitler's suicide, the Swiss journalist Kurt Speidel took his last interview
“I'll tell you what, no one here in Europe knows Russia and has never known it. I do not idealize Russians at all, by no means, Russians still have too much Asian. But the fact remains that the Russian nation turned out to be stronger and more enduring in this crazy war, and I would not be surprised if salvation for the white race comes from the East. It will be logical."
At the end of April 1945, the head of the party's affairs, Martin Bormann, was tasked with establishing contact with a journalist from one of the neutral countries and delivering him to the bunker of the Reich Chancellery.
But Speidel himself was killed during the storming of the Reich Chancellery, and a notebook with a transcript of the conversation, along with many other documents, was delivered to Moscow, where until recently it lay in the archives of the Armed Forces Museum …
In 1995, one of the employees of the archive took the trouble to decipher the stenographic record and was amazed at the uniqueness of this historical document.
He turned to the editorial office of the National Gazette, and today we offer only a few questions from this interview that may be of interest to the modern Russian reader.
Question:
27 years ago, entering the political struggle, did you anticipate that such an ending awaits you?
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A. G
Yes, even then we perfectly understood what we were doing. We entered the decisive struggle (Endkampf), in which the life and existence of the white race was at stake. Everything was at stake, and there could be only two outcomes: either we win, or we finally perish.
Question:
Today is April 29, 1945. Do you realize that you have been defeated?
A. G
I don’t think we have lost. Germany - yes, she lost the war, the Wehrmacht was defeated. But we gave impetus to a powerful idea. National Socialism has clearly proven its absolute superiority.
Remember 1918, remember the 20s - where was Germany then? For several years that we were in power, we managed to create the greatest state in the history of mankind. We have built an economy, brought up healthy young people - spiritually and physically healthy.
In the end, only the great remains in history. Who now remembers the thousands of slaves who died while building the pyramids in Egypt? Only the bulk of the pyramids remained in history.
Yes, we fell in the fight, but this is a fall upward (der Fall nach oben). The future belongs to National Socialism, I am not afraid to say that this will be the 21st century. I would not be surprised if National Socialism triumphs in Russia in the 21st century. During the years of this war, I was forced to reconsider my racial worldview.
I'll tell you what, no one here in Europe knows Russia and has never known it. I do not idealize Russians at all, by no means, Russians still have too much Asian. But the fact remains that the Russian nation turned out to be stronger and more enduring in this crazy war, and I would not be surprised if salvation for the white race comes from the East. It will be logical.
Question:
You said that you played with the idea, but lost the war. A logical question: was this war necessary?
A. G
You speak as if it depended on me alone in the whole world to start this war or not. I know that after our death all the dogs will be launched on us. We will be called aggressors and warmongers. But it is not true that I or someone else in Germany wanted this war.
The new generation of Germans was building a great state, and it is not their fault that they were often put spokes in their wheels. The British, Americans and Jews all over the world did everything to start this war, to stifle the germs of the young National Socialist movement.
Only an idiot can think that this war was the intention of our strategists. Look, in 39, we immediately found ourselves in a ring of enemies superior to us both numerically and technically. But even in such conditions the German spirit showed the world miracles of heroism.
Question:
Looking back, are you not afraid of some of your actions? Let's say the so-called. final solution to the Jewish question.
A. G
At this tragic hour for Germany, I cannot think of Jews.
Question:
What decision in your life do you regret the most?
A. G.
Dispersal of the SA top in 1934 and the execution of Rem. Then I went on about my own emotions, and dirty intrigues within the party played a role. Ernst, with all his shortcomings, was a devoted National Socialist and from the very beginning of the struggle he walked with me shoulder to shoulder. Without his assault detachments, the NSDAP would not have existed.
I know that many then accused me of betraying the national revolution, but contrary to all rumors, I was motivated only by considerations of morality and ethics, I fought for the purity of the party ranks. Ernst was my friend and died with my name on his lips.
If he had been there today, everything would have been different. And the Wehrmacht simply betrayed me, I am dying at the hands of my own generals. Stalin did a brilliant act by organizing a purge in the Red Army and getting rid of the rotten aristocracy.
"National newspaper", N2, 1995