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There are printouts of an interview of a person with a group of ufologists from Moscow who had contact with a UFO (meeting with a UFO, contact of the third type, i.e. direct interaction and communication with aliens). The interview was done in the early 1980s.
I found old printouts in my house, it's a pity to throw it away, since the content, in my opinion, deserves attention: the appearance of humanoids, the reasons for visiting the Earth and other interesting questions.
Interview No. 1
The interview took place in the form of a conversation over tea and was recorded from a phonogram with subsequent revisions and comments. There were UFO specialists: research institutes, biologists, engineers - who asked questions, and the respondent (5 people in total). The interview took place over 3 hours 20 minutes, June 1, 1983.
Question: First of all, tell us how the contact took place. As you remember it, without further overlays
A. I was then only 12 years old. It happened (the place and time in this variant are not important and are omitted). I went for a walk in the forest, one and a half kilometers from the settlements. I struggled through the thicket without any goals, caught my foot on a branch and fell. At first I did not pay attention to this, but then it turned out to be important. I got up and walked on. After this literal one walked a few steps, parted the branches and found himself in a clearing. It was an ordinary tourist clearing with the remains of bonfires, rather isolated, i.e. there was a dense forest around and from the side it was not visible. I went out into the clearing and saw a flying saucer. More precisely, only the bottom of the plate was visible. In a clearing with a diameter of 6-7 meters, it occupied 5 meters. As I said, I was then only 12 years old, besides, I was very well-read with all kinds of science fiction,therefore, such a spectacle did not have a particularly shocking effect on me. By the way, I did not have any side effects, which are often described in contactees with UFOs, namely: horror, numbness.
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Q. You said the bottom of the plate was visible. What was higher?
A. There was nothing above a certain level, i.e. the image was cut off. Outwardly, the plate was the most trivial: silver, metal-like, without any windows.
Q. How tall was the visible part?
A. In height - about human height. I was small then, so the border is higher than me. There was a "plate" on three thin legs about 1.5 meters high. The view was such, completely ordinary in terms of describing fantastic stories, that it seemed that someone was just joking and built such a "plate" of ordinary tin for a practical joke. I stood quite calmly for a while, only had time to look around, and somewhere on the side something like people opened up, from where three extraterrestrials-humanoid came out.
Q. Left, right of you?
A. I don't remember. I remember that not directly at me, but from somewhere on the side. They were in spacesuits, light, like clothes. Height is close to the average height of a person, slightly lower.
Q. Forty meter?
A. No, about 1 m 60 cm. But it must be taken into account that the proportions are different, i.e. they had a very long head. On the shoulders they are as tall as a child, a teenager, and the rest is the head.
Q. What kind of space suits did they have?
A. Spacesuits made of material such as metallized fabric. The spacesuits have various instruments and metal wings. But, as it turned out later, these humanoids also had real wings, but under the spacesuit they were folded and looked like a hump or a backpack.
Q. What did their head look like?
A. I have already said that the proportions of their heads were different; moreover, their face is the same as that of people, and the length of the head was equal to the height of the forehead. Facial features: nose, mouth, lips, chin - everything is human, absolutely normal from our point of view. There is no mustache or beard, the hair is a bit like wool and completely surrounds the ears. But the main difference is the eyes. Their eyes seem to lie on their faces, i.e. the eye sockets are not pronounced, and the eyes are perfectly symmetrical, both in the longitudinal and in the transverse plane. Both eyelids are the same as our upper, and the eye can open up and down. No eyebrows, but on every eyelid there is an equally thick brush of long eyelashes. The color of the iris and the pupil are the same as in humans, but there is something very unusual, unearthly in the look.
Q. You say that the eyes lie on the surface of the face. Do they seem bulging?
A. No, they do not bulge, nor can they even go a little into the eye sockets. It's just that the line of the cheeks coincides with the line of the forehead, goes into it, but the eyes do not seem bulging, although there are no depressions or browbrows.
Q. Do their nose ends between the eyes or above?
A. The bridge of their nose is at eye level, or even slightly lower, does not go over the forehead. More about looks. They have hands like humans, but with four fingers. The fingers are extremely long and, with a very short palm, they all end at the same level, including the thumb. Moreover, they have one more phalanx and are very mobile. In general, their fingers, upon our perception, make a somewhat unpleasant impression, like tentacles. On the other hand, on the legs, there are very long narrow feet and, as I later learned, there is practically no division into toes, and the foot is very flexible and with an elongated supporting surface.
Q. Did they breathe, then, not our earthly air?
A. No, they breathed in a spacesuit.
Q. What kind of helmet was it?
A. On their heads there were something like cylinders, transparent only in the front part, and on the back there were all kinds of apparatus, even something like locators, etc.
Q. Didn't they give the impression of biorobots?
A. No, no. Their spacesuits somewhat resemble robots; their noses do not create such an impression. Their eyes are very lively, even more lively than ours; facial expressions are good, they gesticulate quite actively during conversation.
I will now turn to events. When they left, they immediately came up to me and spoke. The conversation was in Russian with the help of automatic translators, since their lips moved incongruously with their speech - they themselves spoke their own language. They immediately invited me to enter the ship. Then, as a boy, I was only interested in various devices and the like. Purely external plan. They told me that this is a special expedition to Earth, one of the few; but they did not go into details, and this did not particularly interest me. As soon as I entered the "plate", they immediately - I draw your attention to this - immediately placed me in a special cell, so that, as they explained, they could remove the full matrix from me. Moreover, everything happened very quickly: for literally a minute they talked outside, they immediately took me into the ship and into this cell.
There they shone through me for a minute or two, examined special devices, and the matrix was removed. After that, a normal conversation began. They told me: this is a deliberate contact, with a child - because their goal is to reveal the possibilities of the human mind for the development of civilization on the scale of the universe. After a while they let me go home, saying that they would be at this place the day after tomorrow. They wanted me to come and, if I wanted to, I could fly with them. Be sure to keep in mind that I was only a 12-year-old boy, I was only interested in external plans: to fly somewhere, to see something … I returned home and spent 2 days at home with full memory of what had happened. When I came home, I described everything in a notebook, like a diary, and even sketched something. So to speak, on fresh tracks. And looked through various literature,mostly fiction.
Q. Didn't you tell anyone about this?
Oh no! I was strictly forbidden to tell anyone anything. On June 24, at 11 o'clock in the morning, I again went into the forest to the same clearing. They were already waiting for me, they met me. I remember reading somewhere and brought them some earthly products - just an anecdote … They said right away: if you want, fly with us, then we can return you at the same time, you will be absent from Earth for a minimum period; if you don't want to, you can stay with us forever. Of course, I immediately agreed, especially on such conditions. Before leaving, the matrix was removed from me again. And we flew away.
Q. Did you feel anything during the flight?
A. I will not go into details now, I will only say that during the flight I was prepared for life there.
Q. Was it in a dream state?
A. No, it was normal. In general, the flight lasted for about a year. They, of course, could fly faster, but they were counting on my training. What I learned. It turns out that there is such a supercivilization in the universe, which only territorially occupies about 60 (!) Galaxies - this is an absolutely mind-boggling figure; there is no speed barrier for them. For them, theoretically and practically, many properties of our space-time are revealed. The level of their civilization is extremely high - what I am telling now is only the most approximate analogies that can be expressed in earthly terms. And this civilization has existed for more than 14 billion years - also an incredible figure. They are practically at the highest level of development that is possible for humanoids,and their minds will soon develop into a new quality (a very approximate formulation that weakly reflects the true meaning). Many of them have no idea with our analogies at all.
I flew to one of the central planets of their civilization - [… - name deleted]; that is why, by the way, I call them […]. They, in their civilization, I have lived according to earthly time for about 3 thousand years.
They explained to me that in this way it was directly checked whether it is possible for the people of the Earth to adapt to existence in a higher civilization, because in the future, the Earth was to enter their union. It turned out, however, that the characteristics of my thinking are not standard for people on Earth. During my life there, I became a fairly prominent scientist in the field of biology; moreover, the biology of the highest unreasonable animals, to which, for example, on Earth are apes, and I also dealt with the prerequisites for the emergence of reason in humanoids. (1) Both thinking and the parameters of life […] are completely different. So, according to their time, they live for three thousand years, which in our opinion is about three six hundred.
Q. And then they die?
A. Of course, then they die.
Q. Their shell dies, but the spirit remains?
A. Right here: no, they die completely. But I will tell you about this in detail later. So, at the age of almost 3 thousand years, I had to die there and almost died. But at the last moment, one might say, they revived me. Now I do not at all deepen the details of my life on […] and other planets of the Union, therefore I have to use such vague explanations. There, information was received that I must return to Earth at the time and place from which I was taken. I lived for some time while the special apparatus was being prepared.
I had to be returned to the original appearance of a 12-year-old boy - that's why the matrices were removed from me. However […] they could not completely restore only my bodily structure; the structure of the brain could not be restored. For this operation, my already 3 thousand-year-old brain was taken, the body was restored according to the matrices and the brain structure was somewhat changed to correspond to a 12-year-old person. The memory of my entire stay should have been erased from them. Those. I had to remain a simple citizen in my time on Earth. And it was done.
I woke up on Earth in the forest at the very place where I stumbled over a twig in front of the clearing when I went there for the first time. As I discovered, it was already June 24th, and the two days that I knew about […] completely disappeared from my memory.
Q. And the diary?
A. The diary, by the way, oddly enough, remained. This was the first thing that struck me. But I didn’t remember anything, practically, only an hour or two. I got home and for some reason already began to remember. This somehow did not fit: on the one hand, they told me that they would completely erase the memory, but it immediately began to recover. And a diary, which turned out to be a direct fact. True, they made reservations that the memory device was designed for their type of humanoids, but the fact that it refused me was, given their technical potential, complete nonsense. I realized that either I was deceived, or I really completely forgot something. So I returned home, I already remembered something, looked through the diary …
Q. How long have you been absent?
A. I was not at all absent. I just went for a walk …
Q. How much did these 3 thousand years cost on Earth?
A. In 10 minutes. Those. The "saucer" took off and immediately, practically, sat down. Only one took off, and the other landed after "3 thousand years". (2) Even outwardly different. At least in the beginning, as I thought, it all happened that way. And I continued to live here, on Earth, as if nothing had happened, with the constant realization that I was on […] from 12 to 18 years old. Moreover, given my quality of consciousness, I did not fully believe in myself. By the way, what is interesting, I began to remember what happened to me in the first years of my life there, and not the last, as it seemed, should have been. I learned that they are constantly watching me. There is a small special apparatus, I nicknamed it "matchbox", which is constantly next to me, reads my thoughts and fully observes me.
I was completely forbidden to tell people about what had happened, on pain of death. They let me know that if I tell someone about this and they believe me, they believe me, then me and this person will simply be removed. They were as interested as possible that this information about them was not disseminated. And for five years I lived in this state, and I had two extreme types of exacerbations. In some periods, I did not believe in all this at all, I believed that it was my mental disorder. At other times I just felt like a non-earthly, this feeling is terribly unpleasant when you feel that everything around is scary alien, not yours, and even people seemed to me some kind of aliens. At such moments, I often described what happened to me, wrote my knowledge, but then destroyed it: I was influenced in such a way that I burned all these records. In this way, both the original diaries and subsequent records were destroyed. Only one piece of paper with their alphabet remained in a charred form.
Besides, I still developed this quality. The fact is that at the age of 14 I began to take an intense interest in nuclear physics, cosmology, cosmogony and other fundamental topics. It consisted in the fact that I read purely scientific articles and immediately, instantly, determined the correctness or incorrectness of certain earthly knowledge, without having any special education. True, this only concerned knowledge expressed in words; I could not analyze any mathematical formulas and constructions, below I will explain why. And further. At that time I was very negative about various phenomena of parapsychology. The fact is that on other planets this does not exist anywhere; nowhere do humanoids have any parapathy, and I treated all paranormal phenomena as tricks and hoaxes. This lasted for about 18 years. But then,somehow something influenced me, by the way, it was in the 80th year Spirkin's article in "Technique-youth", and so I became interested in this, the information went that it exists, although I could not understand why ? - and I myself, in such a purely boyish plan, wanted to own it. I felt that I had such abilities. And besides, I just found myself seeing one kind of biofield. Also, I was always amazed that I, from […] or for other reasons, in recent years have received a huge amount of information about a variety of things of such a high level, which with the current development of science can only dream of.the plan wanted to own it. I felt that I had such abilities. And besides, I just found myself seeing one kind of biofield. Also, I was always amazed that I, from […] or for other reasons, in recent years have received a huge amount of information about a variety of things of such a high level, which with the current development of science can only dream of.the plan wanted to own it. I felt that I had such abilities. And besides, I just found myself seeing one kind of biofield. Also, I was always amazed that I, from […] or for other reasons, in recent years received a huge amount of information about a variety of things of such a high level, which can only be dreamed of with the current development of science.
This is how I lived for a long time, on the one hand as a normal person, on the other - it seems like not quite normal, and I had no right to say anything to anyone. All this continued until the spring of the past, i.e. 1982.
Then the following happened. Firstly, I already lived in Moscow, I made some acquaintances who were interested in parapsychology. At the beginning of the summer, I was vacationing near Moscow, in the town of Pavlova Sloboda, which, by the way, is known to UFO experts. When I arrived there, I met I., who was interested in parapsychology and was familiar with some psychics. And, literally, on the same days, perhaps by accident, unusual things were noticed in this area. Locals several times saw strange dwarfs, little men, who sometimes appear in the evenings, and at the same time people go numb and are struck with some kind of horror. At some distance from these people, light emanates. Also, 2-meter figures-pillars on short legs were noticed, which from time to time passed at night in front of the windows of houses, and local residents met them. And finallythere was such a case. Once we were walking not far from the village, and a girl jumped out at us with burning eyes, she had a terrible shiver. It turned out that she was passing by a house, and she had poor eyesight, and she thought that there was light ahead from the windows. And suddenly it seemed to shock her. She froze and felt terrible pressure and horror. She noticed that the light was coming not from the windows - the windows were dark - but from something small, literally three meters away from her. And this "something" is staring at her. For some time she was in shock, and then rushed from her place and ran out onto the road right at us. This happened about ten meters from the road. Moreover, after that, she had a terrible trembling for two hours and she could hardly speak; she just kept repeating her terrifying gaze. Passions flared up, rumors circulated around the village. They said that it was supposedlyaliens, and all sorts of spirits, and just silly pranks. On this basis, I got into a conversation with I. about aliens and UFOs. And I had a suspicion that this, to some extent, could be happening in connection with me. After all, this "matchbox" has been near me all the years.
Q. Can you see him?
A. I saw him several times. Outsiders could not see him, but sometimes they show him to me. This usually happens in the semi-darkness, in the twilight: at some distance from me a shiny metal object appears, a parallelepiped measuring 3x1x1 cm.
Q. And is he right next to you now?
Oh yeah. I can guarantee that he is here now. If we start to catch him, then, of course, he will not be caught. By the way, a small digression. When I was young, 13-14 years old, I treated […] as patrons, and often in a purely familiar tone I asked them to do something for me. And when, of course, they did not do this, I took offense at them and began to threaten: "Either you will help me, or I will tell you about you!" But they always let me know that they were doing everything really necessary, but nothing more.
Q. But you were prohibited from disclosing information. How is it now?
A. I am leading to this in my story. When I met I., he promised to introduce me to psychics, to bring me to parapsychologists, but there was still a complete ban on information. I said that I have parapathy, and they really were. But then, in July 1982, I was at my home near Moscow and, as always, walked in the forest and processed the accumulated information in my mind. Actually, I thought a lot and about many things, but the information existed for me not in a verbal-logical form, but in a "stream"; not how most earthlings think, but how thinking occurs among representatives of other civilizations. And they think in many ways, inappropriately and [the existing scientific term has been replaced by] generalized flows and structures; it is extremely difficult to sample such information. In the forest I was doingthat these streams for himself translated into verbal expressions. I formulated them, tried to express them as much as possible in words, although this was sometimes impossible. I went, which means I was processing information, […] we were somewhere nearby. And then I was amazed, just knocked off my feet by an absolutely terrible guess. I don't even know if I realized it myself or they gave it, but this information suppressed me. I found out what was actually happening, what I am here on Earth for, in general. But to explain this, a small digression must be made. The fact is that long before that I discovered the structure of the structure of the Universe. I now imagine it quite clearly, but it is impossible to express it in words. The only word that reflects the essence is - [… - The universe as a whole, the diversity of all possible worlds,spaces and times and forms of matter - the original word taken from esoteric texts has been changed to a more precise expression]. In the future, you may understand what it is. And, knowing this structure, the structure of the Universe in all its parts, one can then restructure knowledge about any phenomenon, know any meaning. And all this is infinitely compact and simple …
Q. So, thanks to this global model, you can answer any questions already at a specific verbal level?
A. Basically, yes. As far as words are enough, of course; in analogies. This is not like a model, it is instantaneous, in fact, dissolution in the entire Universe; Something like this is sometimes called "reaching the absolute" - but it is infinitely higher, non-specific, at all levels of awareness. Dissolution in information. So, I already knew that there are an infinite number of parallel spaces - this definition more or less reflects the essence. Each such space is slightly different from its neighbors, but they are all inextricably linked; the more distant from each other differ more.
Q. Are they different in time or space?
A. You see, you cannot say neither this nor that. They are parallel in these dimensions and above. Every dimension that you can now offer is repeated here endlessly. And every point of any space has access to all points of absolutely all other spaces.
Q. And if we analyze these spaces as multidimensional geometrical by analogy?
A. By analogy, yes. Of course, such a scheme can be used, now it does not matter, but significant differences will already appear at other levels of analysis. But why am I saying all this. At that moment, I was walking through the forest, and the next thing came to light that struck me. It turned out that civilization […] does not exist in our space. There are various other civilizations in our universe, but there is no planet […] here. Civilization […] is in some kind of parallel universe. And my physical "I", which is now sitting in front of you, never existed in that universe. A different thing happened to me; I will say the goal later. In fact, everything happened like this. On the Earth-analogue [located in parallel space (physical reality) - approx.], Where there is a planet […], I-analogue was taken, which lived really 3 thousand years in the intergalactic union. Then the matrix of information of his entire life was taken from this analogue, transferred to our space and connected to me personally. Gradually, my brain began to restore this information of the matrix already on its own structure - I began to remember the life of my analogue on […]. Why, you ask, was it impossible to transfer everything to this space? There are two factors here. Firstly, the transfer of a physical body into a parallel space, although possible, is done by the "typing" method, because it is impossible to make precise aiming at one of the infinitely small sections, which are parallel spaces. And such a body would be present in only one slice. The information matrix can be sent to a whole layer of parallel spaces, and there it can be connected to the physical structure of each analogue [with a person - approx.]. And secondly,what to do in a parallel space to a physical body, if there is already an analogue of this body? So everything was done right. I even admit the thought that in space with a planet […] my analog really returned back to Earth, as he was told […].
Q. Tell me, is it so on our Earth […], then, not at all?
A. Their civilization is not in our space, but they themselves […] are on Earth. They just get here physically, by the "hitting" method, since there are no analogues of them in our space. And each such […] is present only in one specific space - it could not have been relocated to its neighboring analogues. And such […] can never return to his native space: after all, getting into his own slice is infinitely unlikely. These are all very difficult questions, and I am now explaining them by very rough analogies.
Q. But the UFO that took you away, and the one that brought you back - they, therefore, did not stand on our Earth?
A. No, they weren't here. But this is in my memory - tk. the memory of my analogue became personally mine. But on our Earth there are other UFOs sent from the space where my analog lived. (3) But, we stopped at the fact that I was walking through the forest and discovered this whole thing. But what struck me was not whether I was there or an analogue - the most terrible thing for me was the absence of their civilization in our universe. After all, I even hoped to come back. And then it was completely incomprehensible: why then was all this done? I always wondered why I had a memory. Now it became clear that the memory was given on purpose, in the expectation that on Earth there would be a mind from another world. And my second essence began to appear. But what was the purpose? I already began to understand that I am some kind of representative here, I will have some kind of function, and I began to wait.
In August 1982, I again became friends with I., acquaintance with whom was accompanied by the above-described strange phenomena. Once he was driving to an acquaintance of his and said that I would also be interested to visit there. He said that this man is a parapsychologist and can introduce me to psychics. Naturally, I went. This is how I first met T. That evening, many people were visiting him, of whom I did not know anyone. The conversation was about various things and touched upon the problem of the "pendulum". You have obviously heard of the pendulum, frame, dowsing, which represent one phenomenon. T. took a pendulum in his hands and with its help answered any questions of the "yes-no" type. That evening, many of those present took the pendulum, and it began to walk to one degree or another. When I took the pendulum, it immediately began to swing strongly. T.looked at me attentively and asked me to come and talk to him as soon as possible. A few days later I arrived and learned very interesting things. With the help of a pendulum, T. received almost any information, an answer to any question, and with a high degree of reliability. He worked with this method for half a year, and the peak of the amount of information fell on the time when I learned from […] about my essence. T., as a biologist, was mainly interested in the evolution of the Earth and life on it. And quite by accident he came across such a thing. He began to question with the help of the pendulum about God and his essence and received information that, it turns out, there is such a "super-essence" on Earth, which is presented to people in the form of God, the Great Spirit, or the Supreme Mind, in various variations. This "super entity" is in a different space. But this is not a parallel space of those that I have already spoken about, but, so to speak, “perpendicular”. Namely, this is our space behind the light barrier, i.e. what physicists now call tachyon space. What are the origins of this entity? This information was received by two people: T. and I, and we worked independently of each other, and the information coincided by 80 percent. I worked through […], and T. directly through this something he discovered with the help of a pendulum.and the information coincided by 80 percent. I worked through […], and T. directly through this discovered by him something with the help of a pendulum.and the information coincided by 80 percent. I worked through […], and T. directly through this discovered by him something with the help of a pendulum.
It turned out that about a billion years ago in our universe, in the closest region of our space, there was a very highly developed non-humanoid civilization that learned to go out into light space, physicists call it tachyon. The basis for the existence of these creatures was energy (I give only approximate concepts). And, having entered the tachyon space, this civilization was able to capture the energy and information of other beings. (4) For this purpose, she created a special robot in the tachyon space, which was able to connect to intelligent beings and pump their energy and information. (5) But this civilization, even being very highly developed, did not take into account some laws and structures of our space-time, and this robot got out of its control. (6) By the way, I'll notice here,that […] has absolutely no humanoid, in the sense of thinking, robots. And after a while the robot, which became an independent entity, captured its progenitor (7) and learned to do a special operation with intelligent beings to "transmigrate souls." It takes from intelligent beings, in particular, of the humanoid type, their energy-informational structure, which represents our "soul", takes from it the information accumulated during the life of the creature, and then implants this energy into the body being born.takes from it the information accumulated during the life of the creature, and then implants this energy into the body being born.takes from it the information accumulated during the life of the creature, and then implants this energy into the body being born.
Q. And what should actually happen if there weren't something?
A. This is what must be happening. I have already mentioned that the humanoids of other naturally developing civilizations die completely. So, as at the death of a creature, its body gradually decomposes and the substance aligns with the substance of the environment, energy processes fade and energy goes into the world energy field, so information should dissolve in the information field of the Universe. Improving the mind does not consist in improving each individual energy-informational structure, but in improving the general capabilities of informational operation, for which each individual must create the most diverse information structures, operating with various structures from the outside. At the same time, being born anew and dying completely, an individual is maximally informationally different in comparison with other individuals. This is not something, because.ek ibernetical system, not allowing to do this, reduces our opportunities. And there are two more extremely important factors here. First, the information field is physically consistently connected with that physical phenomenon, which we call Time. In essence, it is possible to introduce such a concept - "time vector", which is determined by the mass of incoming information in the field of the Universe. If there is a leakage of information, and the mass of matter and energy entering the Universe remains the same, then the effect of "time compression" occurs, i.e. for intelligent beings in a given region, more and more causal phenomena occur over short periods of time. But it is the quantity, not the quality. the second factor comes into play. It is that the cybernetic system is a machine,processing only discrete information, since its program is based on the "yes-no" principle, a binary code (!), which does not allow it to operate with many non-regular information, which is done by all naturally occurring intelligent beings. (8) And in order to be able to control the civilizations captured by it, the cybernetic system introduced the principle of discreteness into the thinking of their creatures [binary code, "bad-good", "black-white", "good-evil", "god-devil "- approx.] And" transmigration of souls "in order to be able to repeatedly use the same energy of an individual. (9) In essence, she is "the dual unity of God and the devil", separate for us, but one in her person. In her essence there is a constant struggle between two opposites, which constitutes the dynamic mechanism of her life; but there is no forward movement of the mind, becausethere is no qualitative neoplasm of information, which is possible only with a multi-dimensional operation. Here again I am using approximations and not yet specified concepts, but later on, you will be provided with explanatory materials.
So, this cybernetic system has subordinated about 30 civilizations of our Galaxy - not too many by universal standards. In addition, she transferred some civilizations into an energy state, i.e. materially destroyed them due to lack of energy. And one of these civilizations on the road to destruction was the Earth. It must be said that in terms of its qualities this kibersystem is very reminiscent of a person [since directly influenced the evolution of people, the development of the psyche, thinking and body, perception of the world, types of social structure of society - approx.], i.e. it is inherent in absolutely all those vices that people have and which stem precisely from the nature of the dual unity: evil, good and their struggle, embedded in its program. And on the planets under its control, the cybernetic system distorted the natural course of evolution and changed intelligent beings "in its own likeness." That is, as they say, God created people in his own image. According to T.'s information, the kibersystem sent its biorobots to Earth, and as a result of the crossing of such biorobots with people, energy-information systems - "souls" were formed, which it could control, and the development of which was aimed at the fastest accumulation of information with a minimum life span. Thus, she - a robot - receives information accumulated by people during life, and then inserts the energy of souls into new bodies. She gave her robots parapsychological abilities (10) with the aim of establishing "centers of power" over the minds of people on Earth. These transformations took place not only on ours,but also on other planets controlled by her. Any pro-religious groupings became such centers, the basis of their activity was serving the “higher” and bringing to the people ideas of submission not only to material power, but also spiritual submission, awareness of oneself below someone, recognition of ideas about the “creator” and hierarchy. And all the secret doctrines, esoteric knowledge are given for the “initiates” - the hands of the bernetic system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the “righteous” and punishing “infidels. " And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program. Any pro-religious groupings became such centers, the basis of their activity was serving the “higher” and bringing to the people ideas of submission not only to material power, but also spiritual submission, awareness of oneself below someone, recognition of ideas about the “creator” and hierarchy. And all the secret doctrines, esoteric knowledge are given for the “initiates” - the hands of the bernetic system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the “righteous” and punishing “infidels. " And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program. Any pro-religious groupings became such centers, the basis of their activity was serving the “higher” and bringing to the people ideas of submission not only to material power, but also spiritual submission, awareness of oneself below someone, recognition of ideas about the “creator” and hierarchy. And all the secret doctrines, esoteric knowledge are given for the “initiates” - the hands of the bernetic system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the “righteous” and punishing “infidels. " And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program.the basis of their activity was serving the “higher” and bringing to the people the ideas of subordination not only to material power, but also spiritual submission, awareness of oneself below someone, recognition of ideas about the “creator” and hierarchy. And all the secret doctrines, esoteric knowledge are given for the “initiates” - the hands of the bernetic system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the “righteous” and punishing “infidels. " And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program.the basis of their activity was serving the “higher” and bringing to the people the ideas of subordination not only to material power, but also spiritual submission, awareness of oneself below someone, recognition of ideas about the “creator” and hierarchy. And all the secret doctrines, esoteric knowledge are given for the “initiates” - the hands of the bernetic system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the “righteous” and punishing “infidels. " And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program.esoteric knowledge is given for the "initiates" - the hands of the petite system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the "righteous" and punishing the "infidels." And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program.esoteric knowledge is given for the "initiates" - the hands of the petite system on Earth, endowed with inhuman capabilities, healing the "righteous" and punishing the "infidels." And yet everywhere in these teachings "good" and "evil" are included; "White" and "black" are actually of the same origin, that is, The qibersystem is discretized into "good" or "bad", but it always carries the same goals and program.
Q. But, for example, is Agni Yoga based on positive principles?
A. I agree. Interestingly, in general, Yoga is given for the elite, in historical terms; this is what constitutes the coordination basis of the kibersystem on Earth. In general, it acts in all human ways. He will give good to some, evil to others, and by this he confronts on the principle of "divide and rule." This is an entity that, unlike […] and other natural minds, thinks with completely different parameters, thinks and acts like the most different people on Earth. And has great success with them. This is the information we received from T.; then the following happened. In October 1982 […] the ban on disseminating information about them about me was lifted. After that I had the opportunity to tell about what happened to me to those for whom I received permission from […].
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